I'm hoping to pop 'oop North' to see Donald shortly and will ask if he's got any further information on this.
Martyn --- On Tue, 26/8/08, Monica Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Monica Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Chitarrone Francese > To: "Stuart Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Date: Tuesday, 26 August, 2008, 8:57 AM > It's not actually specified in the ms. but in his > article on Gallot (Early > Music Jan. 1978) Donald Gill gives nominal tunings of > > c e g c' e' or > > c efl g c efl' > > i.e. major and minor common chords with open basses down to > G. > > Donald also points out that the first four basses overlap > with the 4th and > 5th courses on the fingerboard. > > That is assuming that these are octave strung. However > this wouldn't be > the case with a re-entrant tuning - although Donald > doesn't mention this. > > In practice the 4th and 5th courses are rarely used and > then usually as only > as open courses. > > In the ms. the instrument is called "la guittare > theorbee" > > Monica > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stuart Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Monica Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Rob MacKillop" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Vihuelalist" > <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:47 PM > Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Chitarrone Francese > > > > > >> Well - I have the Granata book and Gallot and so > could send you some of > >> the pieces if you haven't got these. The > Gallot has the strings on the > >> fingerboard tuned to a major major common chord > rather than the usual > >> guitar intervals. > > > > I'd be interested to know the chordal tuning here. > I don't think you > > mentioned it in your previous lists of alternative > tunings. > > > > > > Stuart > >> > >> I am bit curious about this though because > according to Gary Boye there > >> is a copy of Granata's 1651 book which has an > additional engraved > >> portrait of Granata with in the background what > appears to be a guitar > >> with extended bass strings. I did query with him > whether the instrument > >> was guitar shaped rather than lute shaped. He > said it was guitar shaped > >> but couldn't find his copy of the > illustration. In his dissertation he > >> gives the RISM sigla of the book as F:C. I'm > not sure whether by this he > >> means the Conservatorio Library in Florence or an > obscure library in > >> France. > >> > >> Has anyone else seen this copy? It also seems > that Granata applied to > >> be a super numerary lutenist to the Concerto > Palatino of San Petronio in > >> Bologna. > >> > >> Monica > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob > MacKillop" > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "Vihuela" > <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> > >> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 5:57 PM > >> Subject: [VIHUELA] Chitarrone Francese > >> > >> > >>> The German luthier, Wolfgang Emmerich has > made a copy of the > >>> instrument > >>> from the Grammatica painting, which some > believe to be a Chitarrone > >>> Francese - a sort of archlute for guitar > players. The painting has > >>> only > >>> five courses on the fretboard. Robert > Spencer thought the music by > >>> Fontanelli, the Sonate per il Chitarrone > Francese, was for this > >>> instrument. Richard Pinnell has identified > the music of Granata and > >>> Gallot also for this instrument. > >>> > >>> Now, Wolfgang is visiting Edinburgh in > September and is leaving the > >>> instrument with me for a week before he > takes it home. I hope to make > >>> an mp3 or two and maybe a video of it before > I hand it back. So, could > >>> someone please send me a jpg or two of some > pieces I might be able to > >>> play on it? > >>> > >>> I'm not in the market for such an > instrument, but having it for a week > >>> is very interesting. You can see pictures of > the original painting on > >>> Wolfgang's website: > >>> > >>> > [1]http://www.zupfinstrumente-emmerich.de/English/index.htm > - click on > >>> archlute and scroll down. > >>> > >>> Rob MacKillop > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> References > >>> > >>> 1. > http://www.zupfinstrumente-emmerich.de/English/index.htm > >>> > >>> > >>> To get on or off this list see list > information at > >>> > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >> > >> > >> > >> Internal Virus Database is out of date. > >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: > 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > >> 270.6.5/1620 - Release Date: 19/08/2008 06:04 > >> > >> > >> > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
