I'm not sure which instrument you are referring to - the modern one or Gallot?

Monica

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Are the 'basses' of this instrument set at the upper or lower octave?

Martyn


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From: Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Chitarrone Francese
To: "Monica Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Date: Sunday, 24 August, 2008, 7:43 AM
Thanks, Monica. I only have time for maybe one piece by each
composer,
   so if you could post me copies or jpgs that would be
great.

   Regarding the question of body shape - guitar or lute -
I have no fixed
   or learned opinion, but I imagine different luthiers
tried different
   things. The guitar shape is an obvious one to start
with, as what we
   are considering is a guitar with diapasons added.
However, the baroque
   guitar shape is not conducive to a longer bridge on the
bass side. The
   lute shape is better in this regard. So it might be
possible that some
   luthiers preferred a lute shape for their arch-guitars.
We might never
   know. The Grammatica painting shows only five courses on
the fretboard,
   and this would be an odd thing to do for an archlute -
and the painting
   is otherwise very detailed, so I think the artist was
being accurate. I
   can see the desire of some baroque guitar players to
want to play the
   role that their lute-playing colleagues were doing in
the continuo
   section, playing bass lines and chords. Having an
archlute in guitar
   tuning would be an obvious step for some, I guess.

   Anyway, I'm looking forward to experimenting with it
for a week.

   Rob
   2008/8/23 Monica Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

     Well - I have the Granata book and Gallot and so could
send you some
     of the pieces if you haven't got these.   The
Gallot has the strings
     on the fingerboard tuned to a major major common chord
rather than
     the usual guitar intervals.
     I am bit curious about this though because according
to Gary Boye
     there is a copy of Granata's 1651 book which has
an additional
     engraved portrait of Granata with in the background
what appears to
     be a guitar with extended bass strings.   I did query
with him
     whether the instrument was guitar shaped rather than
lute shaped.
     He said it was guitar shaped but couldn't find his
copy of the
     illustration.  In his dissertation he gives the RISM
sigla of the
     book as F:C.  I'm not sure whether by this he
means the
     Conservatorio Library in Florence or an obscure
library in France.
     Has anyone else seen this copy?   It also seems that
Granata applied
     to be a super numerary lutenist to the Concerto
Palatino of San
     Petronio in Bologna.
     Monica
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     Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 5:57 PM
     Subject: [VIHUELA] Chitarrone Francese

    The German luthier, Wolfgang Emmerich has made a copy
of the
   instrument
    from the Grammatica painting, which some believe to be
a Chitarrone
    Francese - a sort of archlute for guitar players. The
painting has
   only
    five courses on the fretboard. Robert Spencer thought
the music by
    Fontanelli, the Sonate per il Chitarrone Francese, was
for this
    instrument. Richard Pinnell has identified the music of
Granata and
    Gallot also for this instrument.
    Now, Wolfgang is visiting Edinburgh in September and is
leaving the
    instrument with me for a week before he takes it home.
I hope to make
    an mp3 or two and maybe a video of it before I hand it
back. So, could
    someone please send me a jpg or two of some pieces I
might be able to
    play on it?
    I'm not in the market for such an instrument, but
having it for a week
    is very interesting. You can see pictures of the
original painting on
    Wolfgang's website:


[1][4]http://www.zupfinstrumente-emmerich.de/English/index.htm
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    archlute and scroll down.
    Rob MacKillop

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