Dear Lex, See Boyes list for sources naming, guitar, lute, theorbo on title page. But, of course, this is self-selective so excludes sources not naming these instruments ie bowed and/or keyboard.
Certainly bowed basses were used in purely instrumental works by Marini and his contemporaries - which may account for lack of figuring in the 1622 ritornelli. As I asked earlier: does this imply no chordal accompaniment in these (just a single line bass)? Incidentally, I'm not suggesting bowed bass for the songs if the theorbo is present - only if the guitar is used without the theorbo. And if the guitar and theorbo were both present then the theorbo need only play the bass line - a mode which is documented. Indeed to avoid too much plucking I would certainly favour a single line plucked bass if the guitar was present - thus there need be no clash of harmonies as you fear. But even if the theorbo player wished to add chords they would see the vocal (and alfabeto line) line and adjust accordingly ( in practice simply carry over preceding 65 over the g in the bass) to avoid the chordal clash you fear. rgds M --- On Mon, 25/4/11, Lex Eisenhardt <eisenha...@planet.nl> wrote: From: Lex Eisenhardt <eisenha...@planet.nl> Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Composition of short songs in early 17th century Italy - was Marini - was Grenerin To: "Vihuela Dmth" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>, "Martyn Hodgson" <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Monday, 25 April, 2011, 12:47 > On the face of it chitarrone/theorbo might seem appropriate for M's > songs (since, of course, it is mentioned on the title page either with > guitar or as the [preferred?] alternative) I was thinking of the theorbo playing a harmony on G while the guitar would be doing an F major at the same moment. With a bowed string there would of course only be the G in the bass. Do we have indications that bowed string bass instruments were used in this repertoire, in combination with plucked (or strummed) bass? > - but I find the more > substantial difference in tonal characteristics between a plucked and > bowed bass allows the guitar to be heard better in such an ensemble and > a seperation of the two parts to be readily distinguished (but was this > what was wanted?). Rather similar in fact to the popular pairing of > the theorbo with (chamber)organ rather than with the plucked > harpsichord. best wishes, Lex -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html