On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:28:52 +0000 (GMT), Martyn Hodgson wrote
> Thanks Lex
>
> Maybe, but plucking to perform basso continuo on the guitar was
> not unknown if that's what Agazzi really meant (and I'm not
> convinced we can interpret his description as excluding BC using
> full chords only - eg strummed). Indeed, there are even some,
> allbeit later, sources
> (Matteis, Murcia) which give detailed instructions on playing
> guitar BC employing only the plucking (lute) style.
Evidence? ;-) You aren't seriously taking those as reliable sources
for Agazzari-time performance practise, aren't you? That's like
using the film aof the Woodstock festival as a source for Johann
Strauss (the IInd) walzer performance ...
Just to be clear: I don't argue for banning guitars from early baroque
continuo section, I jsut think we should be a little bit more careful
in what sources we draw our information from.
Cheers, Ralf Mattes
> Corbetta in
> his intabulated vocal/instrumental settings is also fairly
> restrained: using plucking play with the occasional strummed chord.
>
> Martyn
>
> --- On Mon, 12/12/11, eisen...@planet.nl <eisen...@planet.nl> wrote:
>
> From: eisen...@planet.nl <eisen...@planet.nl>
> Subject: RE: Return to earlier question: {was Re: [VIHUELA] Re:
> Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}
> To: "Martyn Hodgson" <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>, "Vihuelalist"
> <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> Date: Monday, 12 December, 2011, 9:55
>
> Hi,
> I'm not so sure about the 'etc.'
> It seems that Agazzari was thinking in terms of counterpoint, the
> way the guitar was used (strumming) does not fit in easily. In the
> end, there were more composers who were criticizing the use of the
> guitar
> (Castaldi), at that time. I suppose that the plucked chitarrina could
> be one of the melodic instruments on his list.
> Lex
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> Van: Martyn Hodgson [mailto:hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk]
> Verzonden: ma 12-12-2011 10:24
> Aan: Vihuelalist; eisen...@planet.nl
> Onderwerp: Return to earlier question: {was Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Agazzari
> guitar [was Re: Capona?]}
> Thanks Lex.
>
> Yes, these sources are fairly well known - I'm just not sure
> terminoligy was sufficiently standardised at the time to draw
> unequivocal conclusions and the question as to whether Agazzari
> had Millioni's four-course guitar, 'chitarrino' in mind or the
> instrument required in the Conserto vaga is open.
>
> But to return to the original question: did Agrazzi purposefully omit
> the chitarra spagnuola from his list of instruments as suitable
> for basso continuo, or is it included in the etcetera...? I
> suggested that since he does not list the instrument amongst those
> suitable for embellishment then he did think it suitable for
> continuo (if rarer than the instruments he did singled out).
> However, I'm certainly not advocating even more banging and
> thrashing about as fashionable amongst some modern continuo groupings......
>
> regards
>
> Martyn
>
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