Dear Stuart, As mentioned in our recent exchange on a Losy sarabande: these French chaconnes are good examples of the sort of idiomatic arrangement to be expected from a decent professional musician at the time. Judging from 5 course guitar music in some (amateur?) compiled MSs (such as the execrable Goess Vogl - even after inserting the 'right' flags etc) there was an oceanic gulf between many amateur players and paid performers - not, it has to be said, so much apparent nowadays.
I guess an interesting, if academic, question is which version came first............ regards Martyn. --- On Sun, 11/11/12, WALSH STUART <s.wa...@ntlworld.com> wrote: From: WALSH STUART <s.wa...@ntlworld.com> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: de Visee Chaconne in a minor to the guitar? To: "Monica Hall" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Cc: ar...@student.matnat.uio.no, "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Date: Sunday, 11 November, 2012, 20:24 I couldn't resist a quick try at it: [1][1]http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/Visee.wav The fifth and sixth couplets (?) seem quite different from the lute/theorbo. I wonder if the scribe was arranging it as s/he wrote it out? Listening to the massive, booming performances of this piece on youtube, on monster lute/theorbo makes the little guitar seem a bit feeble. Maybe it need a very extravert performance on a loud guitar. Stuart On 11 November 2012 19:33, Monica Hall <[2][2]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: A transcription of it is also included in Robert Strizich's edition of De Visee's complete works published by Heugel in1969. Monica ----- Original Message ----- From: <[3][3]ar...@student.matnat.uio.no> To: "Monica Hall" <[4][4]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Cc: "Arto Wikla" <[5][5]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi>; "Vihuelalist" <[6][6]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: de Visee Chaconne in a minor to the guitar? It has also been recorded by Rafael Andia. But I don't really like the recording... mvh Are Dear Arto There is a guitar version of this chaconne - in D minor - in the huge manuscript F.Pn Res. F. 844. It is on p.237. Someone - Stuart I think - pointed out that you can download an image of the whole of this ms. from the Bib. Nat. site. Regards Monica ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arto Wikla" <[7][7]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> To: "Vihuelalist" <[8][8]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 9:22 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] de Visee Chaconne in a minor to the guitar? Dear "flat back" lutenists, My try on de Visee's Chaconne in A minor is - as I told - is in [9][9]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqHHPeLMNYU&feature=youtu.be [10][10]http://vimeo.com/53172045 As I said, there is the original(?) theorbo version of this d-minor lute version, but I have a strong memory image that there is also a version to the 5 course guitar of this Chaconne. Is it there? Monica? Other specialists? best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at [11][11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [12]http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/Visee.wav 2. mailto:[13]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 3. mailto:[14]ar...@student.matnat.uio.no 4. mailto:[15]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 5. mailto:[16]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi 6. mailto:[17]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. mailto:[18]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi 8. mailto:[19]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu 9. [20]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqHHPeLMNYU&feature=youtu.be 10. [21]http://vimeo.com/53172045 11. [22]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/Visee.wav 2. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 3. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ar...@student.matnat.uio.no 4. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 5. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wi...@cs.helsinki.fi 6. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wi...@cs.helsinki.fi 8. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu 9. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqHHPeLMNYU&feature=youtu.be 10. http://vimeo.com/53172045 11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 12. http://www.pluckedturkeys.co.uk/Visee.wav 13. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 14. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ar...@student.matnat.uio.no 15. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 16. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wi...@cs.helsinki.fi 17. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu 18. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wi...@cs.helsinki.fi 19. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu 20. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqHHPeLMNYU&feature=youtu.be 21. http://vimeo.com/53172045 22. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html