> Frank Terbeck wrote:  
  > Suresh Govindachar 
  >> Personally, the step mentioned below, viz., "moving the mouse
  >> to the xterm" is a _big_ pain.  As a user, what I like about
  >> the idea of a shell inside vim is the means to avoid the mouse.
  >> <C-Z> in console vim does avoid the mouse but it doesn't allow
  >> simultaneous view and fast access of vim and the shell;  and
  >> the shell from <C-Z> doesn't support commands supported by a
  >> vim buffer.  
  > 
  > Just use GNU screen <http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/>.
  > There's no need for a mouse just to switch between vim and a
  > shell at all.
  
  Thanks, but I am on Windows.  Also, poking around in 
  https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/screen leads one to the 
  mailing list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gnu-screen which 
  has the notice:
  
       GNU screen is NOT developed any more.
       The maintainers only fix serious bugs.
  
  From the dates of the files, development on screen stopped 
  in Jan 2004.

  I suspect developing a terminal is a complex project.  
  
      - The rxvt shell from MinGW is not recommend by them for
        general use (and does odd things when one uses it
        generally);  

      - tcsh from Amol cannot run UnixUtils from
        http://unxutils.sourceforge.net.  

      - There is someone who patches vim to support a shell but does
        so only for Unix; he doesn't support it for Windows and I do
        not know if he has gone beyond 6.3 or 6.4.

  --Suresh


  --Suresh

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