On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 15:24 +0200, Matti Picus wrote: > [...] > > I thought OK, let's setup vim to be more user friendly so I can do > advocacy. This led me to using cream.
Cream has it's own lists (http://cream.sf.net/about.html), for the record. This list is quite tolerant, but I'd ask that you move this discussion there so we avoid taking advantage of it. > I installed it > (http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/cream/cream-0-38-gvim-7-0-152.exe) > on a windows computer to test, but found cream and its installation > of vim both very slow to start up, on the order of 10s of seconds, > about the same time as a network timeout. Is this reasonable? No, it should only add 2-3 seconds to normal gVim, maybe one or two more the first startup. > Is there some kind of "call home" in the startup files? No. > A clean installation of vim 7.0 from source on the same machine does > not have this problem. Cream is added to Vim, so it will never be as fast. It's overhead includes retained preferences, a different interface, add-ons, additional features, etc. But 10 seconds sounds like there is a problem, perhaps your discovered $HOME location is remote? Join the cream-general list and I'll help you sort it out. -- Steve Hall [ digitect dancingpaper com ] :: Cream... usability for Vim :: http://cream.sourceforge.net