I wrote:

> Kazunobu Kuriyama wrote:
> 
> > > > [TL;DR]  I wish you rethink about this.  It seems there's
> > > misunderstanding
> > > > about the proposed patch.  Since I thought it was not the one on my
> > > pert, I
> > > > didn't address it to the feedback from Marvin.  But you still rase
> > > similar
> > > > concerns.  Now I'm going to try to address them at full length.   Since
> > > > it's pretty long, please read it at your convenient time.
> > >
> > > Sorry, this is too much to read.  Let's summarize.
> > >
> > > First of all, we need to keep all the existing values for has().
> > > Otherwise plugins break.  So keep has('gui_mac').
> > 
> > 
> > I'll keep intact the description of gui_mac in eval.txt.  Then, what should
> > we do with evalfunc.c:5670 where "gui_mac" is set as a member of has_list[]
> > when FEAT_GUI_MAC is defined?  My proposal was to remove it together with
> > the ifdef block.  Will we keep it there as-is or keep it there yet
> > replacing FEAT_GUI_MAC with 0 or a newly designated preprocessor symbol,
> > say SUPPORT_DISCONTINUED?
> 
> Wait, are you saying that FEAT_GUI_MAC would never be defined?  I
> thought that was still working if Carbon is available.  I suppose that's
> only on older systems.
> 
> Unfortunately os_mac.txt is totally unhelpful.  It points to macvim.org
> without mentioning anything about what version one gets there and for
> which system.  Also, the code names are not explained.  E.g., what is
> Darwin?  I believe it's the same as OS X.
> 
> Why don't we start with listing versions of Mac OS and what versions of
> Vim one can build on it.  I guess we only support OS X.  Mac OS 9 was
> released in 1999, OS X in 2001.  Even my very old Powerbook G4 has OS X.
> I managed to make it startup again.  It has the GUI with Vim 7.2. When I
> have time I'll try later versions.

Unfortunately, it looks like the harddisk died just now.  So I won't be
able to try out things on OS X 10.4.  I hope someone else has an older
OS X version to verify the Carbon code still works.

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