On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 1:46:51 AM UTC+8, L. A. Walsh wrote:
> Ben Fritz wrote:
> > I'm not quite sure I understand why you need another top-level 
> > application window. 
> ----
>     Because it makes editing easier.  I want to be able to
> rearrange the windows with a mouse -- drag them.  I want to be able
> to drag a tab from one window to another.  These are all simple actions
> that have existed for over a decade in browsers. 
> 
>     Creating "auto-commands" to resize windows as I enter them is
> not something I can do just by dragging.  I'd have to write custom
> scripts to handle windows in various ways.  Having to write
> custom scripts to create custom windows is not something I want to
> spend my time doing when I could just press a key to open a tab
> in a new window.
>    
> > From your description I think you may want to open a new tab on the 
> > first file with ":tab sp" and then ":vsp other_file" to get both files 
> > in one tab page (and you'll still have both files in the previous tab 
> > pages as well). When you're done, ":tabclose" and you're back to where 
> > you started.
> ----
>     Tab sp/vsp/what?  I don't want to try to type & split -- I want
> to use a mouse.  That's a more logical action for what I'm talking about.
> How would I tell it to open a tab upward and to the right of the main
> window above a TTY window? 
> 
>     I don't want to be constrained on how I open windows or their
> geometry.  I want to be able to stagger them -- diagonally or
> side-by-side or over each other.  Managing 10-12 files using a
> keyboard-only is way too much typing -- that I can't do as fast
> as moving something with a mouse. 
> 
>     Due to nerve damage I don't type as fast as I used to.  This
> is an ease-of-use issue -- I don't want to control windows with
> a keyboard.  I want to control windows and their position w/a
> mouse and reserve typing for content in the windows.  That's the
> bottom line -- I want to control window positions and visibility
> with a mouse -- not a keyboard.
> 
>     Using a keyboard to navigate around a desktop is a royal pain.
> That's what a mouse is for.
> 
>     As I asked above in opening a new vim-view above a tty window.
> How do you intersperse output from different applications with
> vim if vim is all 1 window?
> 
>     As I mentioned starting out -- this is a GUI issue -- where
> one uses a mouse to control window positions. I want vim to be
> able to use the window manager to manage windows so I can
> have windows of other applications interspersed.
> 
>     You can't do that when vim is one large block covering most
> of the screen.



Just in case, you know that the split columns and lines in Gvim can be dragged 
by mouse right? And this is still not what you want ?

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