Lonnie, I did a quick internet search and this page looks the best for those oh-so magical Mac key combinations:
http://davespicks.com/writing/programming/mackeys.html As to the CD-ROM driver... There is clearly some sort of rudimentary CD-ROM support in the Macintosh boot ROM... And this "built-in" support is not limited to Apple branded drives only. Back in the day you used to be able to find information on which CD-ROM drives were Macintosh "bootable", i.e. the drive worked with the ROM based CD-ROM driver. This is the mechanism used when you boot your Mac holding the "C" key. The CD-ROM boot "driver" is in the ROM, but without a "proper" system on the CD-ROM, the disc will eject (I believe) and the computer will continue looking for a boot source. The "new" hard drive was likely either formated with a modified Apple drive utility or with a 3rd party formatter. But once the drive is formatted and running, you are pretty much set. I would still just put it in the Quadra (temporarily replacing the CD-ROM drive), "erase" the disk (just like you would a floppy) and then copy the system folder over. This is not an "upgrade" in the normal sense of the word (you are not applying a patch) but a outright replacement. Good luck, Derek On Mar 3, 2009, at 5:50 PM, lrbarrios wrote: > > On Mar 3, 4:36 pm, Derek Morton <[email protected]> wrote: >> Lonnie, >> >> If memory serves (I am just getting back into my old Macs), holding >> down the mouse button while booting will eject all removable media >> (hold it down as you power it up and keep on holding it until the >> media ejects). If all else fails, you can always remove the drive >> from the machine and press the eject button... but I would just go >> get a paperclip first... LOL > > I just wanted to know for future reference what the magic keystroke > was. After I sent my message, remembered the 'hold down the mouse > button' but wasn't sure if that would also work with CD drives. > >> There may be a missing CD-ROM driver (I have never used a NAD)... Or >> possibly the CD-ROM drive has been replaced by a non-Apple branded >> drive (though if you have a bootable Mac disk in the CD-ROM drive on >> boot, I think the driver will load even if it is non-Apple drive - >> again if memory serves). > > I guess that's where I'm confused... If the CD-ROM driver was > 'missing' how could a CD boot? I can't swear what boot disk image I > used when I resurrected the Quadra, but I'm assuming it was the 7.5 > Network Access Disk 'cause that's what macfaq.org said to use. I > can't speak for the internal CD drive. Maybe it was replaced at some > point by the previous owner. I do have an Apple External CD-ROM SCSI > drive for the Quadra. Maybe I can drag it over to the LC and see if > it acts any differently. Maybe discs will mount when using it. > >> It sounds like this "new" drive was already formated and usable... >> So I am not sure why you want to run HD SC. > > I just wanted to wipe it clean and do a fresh install myself. I like > to know what's getting installed. I don't know which options/add-ons > were previously installed. Also, as I stated, I think it was 7.1. I > would like to start with 7.5.3 and then update to 7.5.5. I would > rather not update from 7.1 to 7.5.5. Call me crazy, but that's just > something I try to avoid doing (I guess it comes from my daily > experiences with Windows). > >> For getting 7.5.5 (or whatever you have on your Quadra) onto the >> "new" hard drive, my best suggestion would be to put your "new" drive >> into your quadra and simply copy the system folder from the Quadra's >> drive. Just unplug the built-in CD, and replace it with the "new" >> hard drive (after adjusting the SCSI address on your new hard drive - >> try using anything other than 0 or 7). A HD to HD transfer is going >> to be much faster and easier than running through an entire install >> again. > > This is a possiblity and I might try it if everything else fails. > >> To use the drives (assuming non-Apple branded), you will either need >> to use a third party formatter (HD) / driver (CD-ROM) or use patched >> versions of Apple's. I have done both and they both work... I kind >> of like the Apple approach myself. Although there are times when a >> third party tool is necessary. > > Yes, this is a non-Apple branded drive. Again, I'm confused... How > was the other OS installed on this drive? It didn't get installed > while the drive was in my LC 520 though. It was installed on > something else and then shipped to me. I don't know what machine was > used to install the OS. If it were a ROM/non-Apple branded drive > issue, how did its existing OS get installed? I do also have an > Apple- > branded 250MB that I could throw in there and see what happens. In > the end, I'd like to be running off of the 325MB drive though. I'll > play with it tonight and update y'all tomorrow. In the meantime, > please keep the suggestions comin'. Thanks. > > Lonnie. > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Vintage Macs group. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
