That's *exactly* what I was wanting to hear. So there is no native boot
ability available for either PPC or m68k? I have a 610 I'd love to get
running linux, and I have a 660AV with 64MB ram that i'd love to get running
with some kind of dual-boot thing. Thats what I needed to know. I thought
something came out with information I didn't already find :)



B (12 macs + 1 Core i7 Server with 7 Virtual Machines)

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Scott Holder <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh man, I hadn't thought about some of the stuff Dana did in forever.
>
> The craziest thing I remember was she compiled PearPC for Debian m68k on
> a Quadra, and was working on booting OS X in it. ISTR she ran into byte
> order problems, but it got at least as far as the grey Apple screen
> after some number of days. Never did see the results, but I've always
> planned on trying it myself. My 840AV started having problems around the
> time I was going to try it.
>
> As far as Linux goes, for pre-Open Firmware machines I believe the only
> option is to use to MacOS based bootloader like BootX, miBoot, and quik.
> For Old World, later Open Firmware based machines ISTR there being some
> specific things that could be done to boot them.
> http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/820.html has some information on
> it.
>
> The usual method I used on my 68k Macs I had running Linux was a teeny
> (as in, 4-5 megs, or less even) partition with a minimal System 7.1 boot
> and the BootX extension set to autoboot and in startup. Mac OS would
> boot very quickly being so stripped down, and it'd immediately jump into
> Linux and boot nicely. I used an 840AV and a Q605 as my primary mail
> server at home for years. Finally had to retire them after the need for
> more processing power got too great. I always did net installs though,
> so I never had to worry about CD boots and things.
>
> Scott
>
> Britt Dodd wrote:
> > Well see, my thing is I dont really understand *how* to initially get
> > the linux CD to boot. I'm almost positive its not as easy as popping
> > in the CD and holding down C at boot....and If i'm installing linux on
> > a mac,I dont want to initiate the process via MacOS.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Emerson William dos Santos Moura
> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     I remember a Dana´s (www.danamania.com <http://www.danamania.com>)
> >     old message (2 or 3 years ago)
> >     in the list Debian-PPC with a complex how-to install Debian newer
> than
> >     Debian Sarge in Macs Old World.
> >
> >     Do you know any simple way to do this installation? Or Debian was
> >     further supported for Macs Old World?
> >
> >
> >     >>     Kubuntu (KDE) 9.04:
> >     >>
> >     <http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/releases/9.04/release/>
> >     >>
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/releases/9.04/release/
> >     >>     Kubuntu (KDE) 9.10:
> >     >>
> >     <http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/releases/9.10/release/>
> >     >>
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/releases/9.10/release/
> >     >>     Or an old version of Xubuntu (XFCE) 6.06:
> >     >>     <http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06/release/>
> >     >>     http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06/release/
> >     >>     Remember: (K / X) Ubuntu´s install supports only New World
> >     Macs. For
> >     >>     Old World, only up to version 3.0 - Woody (maybe 3.1 -
> >     Sarge) of
> >     >>     Debian and some other distributions of Linux.
> >     >
> >     > Debian 5.0 (Lenny) installs on Old World Macs.
> >
> >
> >
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