Okay, so here it goes: At the moment, I am staring at two things. The first is my laptop screen, so I can see what I am typing as I compose this message. The second is my Performa 6110CD, which I was using to check my email on gmail.
YES, I have networked my Performa 6110CD to the internet. :) Quick recap on that hookup: Farallon EtherMac AAUI to RJ-45 10BaseT Ethernet adapter, hooked up to a cable modem (or more specifically, an airport extreme). Surfing through OpenTransport (latest for system 7.6.1); TCP/IP control panel configured to connect via Ethernet. Browser of choice (only one available) is Netscape Navigator. Performa booting off HD, which is actually a 80-pin UltraWide SCSI interface, running through several adapters (80 pin -> 68pin -> 50pin) to reach the 50 pin interface connecting to the motherboard. Other connected SCSI devices: Apple 300Plus CD-ROM drive, HP Tape Drive, and this is not on the chain, but a floppy drive as well (1.44MB). Cable I'm using has a drop for one more device, should I choose to add another. The hurdle is almost over. Hang tight, everybody! Still need to fix a few issues, and I have a quick (new) question. Here goes: I cannot seem to find a correct setup to route the ethernet internet connection to my other macs via LocalTalk. Apparently, AppleTalk and LocalTalk connections do NOT have the ability to forward TCP packets, so I need to "encapsulate" those TCP packets within an AppleTalk connection. Localtalk Bridge has failed, so moving on to another piece of software. At the suggestions of others, I have downloaded IPNetRouter from Sustainable Softworks. I have tried to set it up to route my ethernet TCP/IP packets through MacIP or local talk (or something), but have since been unsuccessful. I think I am simply not setting it up correctly. Also, the configuration utility has failed, and I cannot get any routing connection to work. I have both interface connections set up in IPNetRouter, the ethernet has IP Masquerading ON, set to an IP of 10.0.1.31 (permanently assigned by my airport router network). From the airport (network) side, I have tunneled incoming TCP port 4670 to route directly to the IP address (the configuration utility requires it). The LocalTalk interface has a starting IP of 192.168.1.1 (for the host Performa), and the other computers have 192.168.1.2 and 192.168.1.3 for the Powerbook and the SE, respectively. What I am I doing wrong? Does anybody have any suggestions, or does anybody have a way of setting it up successfully? Any help would be appreciated. Second issue: I have an old tape drive (DDS2) that connects to my SCSI chain. It is an old HP C1539, I think, and I cannot get Mac OS 7.6.1 to format and read from the tapes. I have tried MicroNet and Lido software, and nothing will even acknowledge that a tape is present! It sees the drive (Sequential-Access Tape Drive), and a model number and other pieces of minor info, but it doesn't see the tape. Is it possible to use an old tape drive like that as another drive? For example, can I insert a tape into the drive, and (somehow) store files to it like I can a hard drive? Is it the lack of software I'm using…should I be using something more specific? If so, DL links would be appreciated! (Also, unrelated minor note, anybody have suggestions for a good FTP browser for system 7? I want to download some files off an FTP server, but don't have any software. Ideas?) Thanks for the help, everybody. I really appreciate it. Because of everybody here, I have resurrected some old macs, and turned then from useless scraps to working, functional, and modernized machines. *Tips hat to everybody*. So, I look forward to hearing your responses. Cheers! -Jake On Nov 27, 1:44 pm, jerrypins7 <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Jake! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 26, 2011, at 6:33 AM, Jake <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Okay, so here is the link to download. I suggest using cyberduck (if > > you have a mac) to do some exploring. > > > System 6.0.3: > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.3_Disk1of4.sea.bin > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.3_Disk2of4.sea.bin > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.3_Disk3of4.sea.bin > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.3_Disk4of4.sea.bin > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.3.txt > > > System 6.0.5: > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.5_Disk1of4.sea.bin > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.5_Disk2of4.sea.bin > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.5_Disk3of4.sea.bin > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.5_Disk4of4.sea.bin > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.5.txt > > > System 6.0.8 (1.4MB Images) > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.8-1.4MB_Disk1of2.sea > > .bin > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.8-1.4MB_Disk2of2.sea > > .bin > > > System 6.0.8 (800k Images) > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.8-800k_Disk1of4.sea. > > bin > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.8-800k_Disk2of4.sea. > > bin > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.8-800k_Disk3of4.sea. > > bin > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.8-800k_Disk4of4.sea. > > bin > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.8_Info.txt > > > System 6.0.8L (for Macintosh Classic II and PowerBook 100 only) > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.8L-1.4MB_Disk1of2.si > > t > > ftp://[email protected]/pub/mac/sys/os/us-english/SSW_6.0.8L-1.4MB_Disk2of2.si > > t > > > Enjoy! > > -Jake > > > On Nov 25, 12:07 pm, jerrypins7 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Can anyone supply me with a copy of 6.0.8 for my SE or direct me where I > >> can get that OS (currently running on 6.0.4)? Also, I can't get connected > >> to my third-party external hard drive. Any suggestions? > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > >> On Nov 24, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Jake <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> Okay, so I have been a mad scientist trying to build a network for my > >>> vintage macs. I thought it would be good to give a current > >>> configuration of my machines and systems before I ask my next > >>> question. Here goes! > > >>> Macintosh SE: > >>> System: OS 7 (6.0.8 via floppy if necessary) > >>> HD: 6gb (4 partitions) IDE drive. Converted to SCSI using an R-IDSC-E/ > >>> R chip. > >>> Working ADB keyboard and mouse. (+1 adb trackpad I own) > >>> Floppy: Two 1.4mb drives (running for 800k due to ROM issues) > >>> Two serial ports, one DB25, two ADB, one DB19. > > >>> Macintosh Performa 6110CD(Power Mac 6110): > >>> No HD (bought a 9gb scsi drive...coming in mail soon) > >>> One floppy drive (1.4mb) > >>> One cd-rom drive (not working too well...don't know why...could be > >>> some driver issues) > >>> Working keyboard and mouse (adb) > >>> Working VGA display (using a hdi-45 to db15 cable and a Griffin PNP > >>> display adapter) > >>> Two serial ports, one db25 port, one adb port, one AAUI Ethernet port > > >>> PowerBook 1400cs: > >>> HD: 750mb > >>> OS: 7.5.3 > >>> Hot swappable 800k/1.44mb floppy and cd-rom drives > >>> One serial port > >>> Built in keyboard and trackpad > >>> One adb port > >>> No working battery > > >>> Newton eMate 300: > >>> Standard configuration > >>> No power supply > >>> Battery is shot (completely dead) > >>> Been charging with a dc power adapter actually made for my home phone > >>> system...seems to turn it on fine. > > >>> Okay, so that is the current configuration of my machines. I also have > >>> purchased the following: > >>> 3 farallon Phonenet minidin8 adapters > >>> 1 AAUI to Ethernet adapter > >>> Assorted cables for the whole network... > > >>> Okay, so moving on. I was planning to use the Performa as a bridge > >>> machine to allow for Internet to pass through. After all, it does have > >>> LocalTalk and Ethernet access. However, my issue came when I was > >>> trying to figure out how to configure it. The machine has no HD at the > >>> moment, and the HD it had was shot anyway. > >>> How can I get system software (<7.5.x) onto the new HD when it > >>> arrives? I have thought floppy, but I cannot seem to find compatible > >>> software that would allow me to get onto floppy disks. The only system > >>> software I found was a 19-part download on apple's website, but that > >>> just mounted (on the PowerBook) as a ~50mb folder or something. Inside > >>> was an installer app. Obviously I cannot divide that into floppies, as > >>> no actual disks were inside. Suggestions? > > >>> Also, what is a good piece of software to act as a bridge to allow the > >>> incoming Ethernet TCP/IP packets over the AppleTalk network? I know > >>> that natively you cannot send TCP over LocalTalk, but using 3rd party > >>> software or hardware you can. > >>> Also, in case that fails, what is a good piece of hardware that will > >>> allow for an Ethernet Internet "provider" over Phonenet? I have set up > >>> a Phonenet network (connected the computers via a LocalTalk serial > >>> connection), and I know that there is hardware available that you can > >>> use to convert Ethernet to LocalTalk (serial). I need this, however, > >>> to supply the internet connection for the entire network. I want to be > >>> able to send Internet through Ethernet, and then be able to surf the > >>> web and download files to my Mac SE, PowerBook, Performa, and eMate. > >>> Does anybody have any suggestions for either of the two things I just > >>> mentioned above. > > >>> Beyond that, I can officially say that my Mac SE is running great! It > >>> is rocking a new HD, and it works better than ever. > >>> The PowerBook worked fine when I started out. The performa needs some > >>> major work, but all parts required are on the way. Only thing left is > >>> to network them all together. > > >>> Oh, I forgot. The host computer that will be supplying the Ethernet > >>> connection is myMacBook Pro(running 10.7 lion). Does anybody have a > >>> way to, well...send an Internet connection, over Ethernet, that will > >>> work with my vintage network? I was thinking Internet sharing (airport > >>> to Ethernet in system preferences), but then I thought it could be an > >>> issue because of compatibility or something. Then again, I could be > >>> totally wrong, and it would work just fine. Does anybody have a way to > >>> do this? Will lion be able to send a normal Internet sharing > >>> connection to a performa (or piece of bridge hardware) with no issues? > > >>> Thanks everybody for all the help! > >>> -Jake > > >>> On Nov 20, 12:38 am, Clark Martin <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> On Nov 19, 2011, at 2:58 PM, glen wrote: > > >>>>> _ > > >>>>>> From: Jake <[email protected]> > > >>>>>> After the previous suggestion, I went and bought three farallon > >>>>>> phonenet adapters. Thanks! Can't wait to network! > > >>>>>> Does anybody have any links to hook the phonenet system up to an > >>>>>> actual ethernet (~) Internet connection? Or, does nobody have a way of > >>>>>> getting either a PowerBook 1400cs or a Mac SE in the internet? > > >>>> You need two functions to get a LocalTalk Mac on the Internet. The > >>>> first is to convert from LocalTalk to (AppleTalk over RS-485) to > >>>> EtherTalk (AppleTalk over Ethernet). The second is to convert from > >>>> MacIP (IP over AppleTalk) to IP over Ethernet. > > >>>> The first step can be done with any of a number of AppleTalk bridges > >>>> (normally used to connect LocalTalk equipped printers to Ethernet > >>>> Networks). Farallon, Asante, Sonic and others made these devices. You > >>>> can also do it using LocalTalk Bridge software on a Mac connected to > >>>> both networks. Apple provides this software for free on their web site. > > >>>> <http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Upda...> > > >>>> For the second part, converting MacIP to IP over Ethernet you can use > >>>> IPNetRouter Sustainable Softworks. > > >>>> <http://www.sustworks.com/sb_site/products.html> > > >>>> Or you can get both features in one by using a Kinetics FastPath or > >>>> Cayman Gatorbox. Both of these are going to be hard to find, and likely > >>>> even harder to get working. I had several FastPaths and gave up on them > >>>> when they one by one stopped working (they are old). > > >>>> I've used many combinations of the above over the years and they have > >>>> all worked well enough. The biggest problem is that the older Macs just > >>>> can't do a lot on the Internet. E-Mail, ftp, telnet are okay. Web is > >>>> okay if you are accessing VERY primitive web pages. Which excludes > >>>> about 99.99% of what is out there. I never could find an ssh client > >>>> that would run on the older systems. > > >>>>> As > >>>>> you stated the SE has a specific PDS (96 pin I think) and given the > >>>>> space limitations of the SE the card has is 90 degree angle to the plug. > >>>>> I think theMac IIsiuses the same card but my memory may not be > >>>>> correct. > > >>>> The SE/30 and IIsi do use the same PDS slot and most cards can be used > >>>> on both. On the SE/30 if the PDS card includes a FPU it will need to be > >>>> removed / disabled. > > >>>>> There are also SCSI to ethernet adapters out there somewhere. --glen > > >>>> Slow and getting very hard to find. > > >>>> Clark Martin > >>>> Redwood City, CA, USA > >>>> Macintosh / Internet Consulting > > >>>> "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" > > >>> -- > >>> ----- > >>> You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs > >>> group. > >>> The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtmlandour > >>> netiquette guide is > > ... > > read more » -- ----- You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. 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