The little 1/2 aa 3.6v? Yea I replaced it with a new one the day I got the 
computer. 



> On May 18, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Charles <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Have you checked the P ram battery should be 3.6 V
> 
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>> On May 18, 2015, at 12:37 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>> After washing it it still only shows the gray screen.
>> 
>> I got two SCSI 50 pin hard drives coming in the mail and I am in the process 
>> of getting capacitors, the 6500 post is about that. So I guess we will see 
>> what happens after those.
>> 
>> I will also have two more Mac classics as I have some of them that need 
>> their capacitors changed so I needed capacitors anyways, probably won't hurt 
>> to recap the other computers either.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Jeff Walther <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 4:05:32 PM UTC-5, Violet Cloud wrote:
>>>> Hmm, well it worked once but didn't see the hard drive during 
>>>> installation. 
>>>> 
>>>> Now it won't boot with the floppy or cd at all and will only go to the all 
>>>> gray screen again. 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would remove the logic board, remove any RAM, etc.   and thoroughly wash 
>>> the board.   Many methods are viable.  I prefer to spray boards with flux 
>>> cleaner, give them a gentle scrubbing with an old tooth brush, rinse with 
>>> 91% isopropyl and then rinse with distilled water.   Just washing 
>>> (scrubbing) with the isopropyl and skipping the flux cleaner works pretty 
>>> well too.
>>> 
>>> The idea is that the surface mount electrolytic capacitors (look like tiny 
>>> silver fuel storage tanks) have leaked corrosive, mildly conductive goo 
>>> onto the logic board.   The caps probably need to be replaced, but a 
>>> servicable interim test which usually works is to thoroughly wash the 
>>> board.   If it works properly after that, then you've stopped any immediate 
>>> corrosion, you have a (temporarily) working board, and you know that the 
>>> capacitors definitely need to be replaced.
>>> 
>>> The leakage from the caps is extremely hard to see.   It looks a bit like 
>>> old dried cola, a slight brownish discoloration and is more visible if you 
>>> view the board at an oblique angle to a light source.   Sometimes you'll 
>>> find dust stuck in the tacky leakage adn that can make it easier to spot, 
>>> but dust does not always accumulate on the leakage.
>>> 
>>> Pretty much all the 840AVs out there need their capacitors replaced at this 
>>> point.  It's probably true of  their little brothers, the 660AV, too.
>>> 
>>> BTW, if the 6100 was missing its ROM it would not make a sound at boot up.  
>>> If you're getting a good chord or even chimes of error/death, that means 
>>> that a ROM must be present.   Not really relevant any more, given how 
>>> things turned out, but might be useful to know later.   Also, if you start 
>>> getting mysterious crashes after running for a while, on the 6100, there's 
>>> a fair chance that the heat sink grease between the CPU and heat sink has 
>>> turned to powder and needs to be replaced.
>>> 
>>> Given time, such leakage will corrode logic board traces, vias, solder and 
>>> component pins. 
>>> 
>>> Jeff Walther
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