Ditto! I learned braille at a very young age and have since become an avid reader. I don't have the patience or comprehension level, as a result, to listen to audio books, files or anything else for any great length of time. As a court stenographer, I would think that in order to edit and proofread my transcripts, it would take me an excruciatingly long and tedious time to rely only on speech for this task. When contacted by potential blind court reporters, the first thing I ask them is if they are strong braille readers. I certainly don't want anyone to think that if their answer is no, that I discourage them from pursuing a career in court reporting, but I do tell them that spelling and punctuation are of the utmost importance in producing a legal transcript. So...I'm off my soapbox, but like I said, ditto...THANK YOU BRAILLE!!!
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ramy Moustafa Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 5:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: great iphone article For me, braille is very important tool for my education, am playing and teaching music, without Braille I will not be able to read any music notes. So, thanks Braille so much! Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 9:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: Cristobal Subject: Re: great iphone article Interesting article. Thanks for posting it. I myself am pro braille. I think it should be taught and used to teach things like spelling, grammar, punctuation and so on. It also becomes another tool in a successful blind person's arsenal. IMHO, when giving a speech, I think braille notes are still far superior to any speech output device. On the other hand though, I don't think comparing a blind person's use of speech output or technology to an oral culture or times before the Gutenberg press were invented is accurate either. Using speech output, I have access to the written text and the written text available to most people in society today. Using note takers and speech output, ideas are not ephemeral. I can write them down and recall them at will. I would agree that before the use of computers and speech output, a blind person who didn't know braille could be called illiterate and could be compared to someone living in an oral culture. I don't think that's the case now. I also don't think it's an either or choice between braille and speech. They're both important tools that a successful blind person needs. On 03/05/12 14:10, Cristobal wrote: > This is an article I read in the New York Times a couple of years ago about > this topic. I went back and found it as it appears to be relevant to > this whole theme. > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/03/magazine/03Braille-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted= > print > This is a link to the printable version which is less cluttered than > the regular page. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of alex wallis > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:03 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: re: great iphone article > > Hi Raul, > your message was quite interesting that you sent to the list, having > said that, I must disagree with you about speech and audio meaning > that people don't often capitalize sentences, or at least, I think > maybe its a factor that makes people less likely to do it, but I think > its also down to quality > of education. > I am not sure if you know this, but in the UK braille system, there is > no official rule that says you must capitalize sentences and words > using a dot > six, or at least there wasn't when I was growing up. > Having said that, I don't know if this is still correct as I believe > when I > finished education the powers that be were considering introducing > this from > the American braille code. > > Having said that, for most of my life up til the age of 12 I had > little contact at all with computers, towards the end of primary > school I did get the chance to use my first computer, a bbc micro and > from then on my use of > computers steadily increased to the point where braille is pretty much > unused in my daily life. > I am pretty good at capitalizing sentences, and words, though I must > admit the spell check is very useful for this, and I do sometimes have > to make a conscious effort when correcting messages before sending > them to think about > capitalizing certain words and sentences. > But I always go through and check any e mail before sending it. > What I think is a major factor in blind people being bad spellers is a > combination of things, firstly the use of grade 2 Braille, I think > that my learning this really impacted on my ability to spell correctly > as I don't think I thought as much after learning it about how words > should be spelled, > and was thinking more about what contraction should be used where. > The second thing I think that has impacted on the ability of blind > people to > spell is the use of spell check, as I don't know about anyone else, > but normally when I use a spell check I don't stop to listen to the > correct spelling always, though I do try to make an effort to do so > when I have the > time. > Another area I am quite bad on is the use of punctuation and > paragraphs, I find it quite hard knowing when to place punctuation, so > I probably use far > two much of it, and paragraphs I admit I hardly use unless I really > think about it or someone checks something I have written and reminds > me about them. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- Christopher (CJ) chalt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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