Amen!  I have no trouble with the roter but can't do the 4 finger tap worth
a darn.

Kim 

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristobal [mailto:crismuno...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture

I can't say I've had nearly the trouble expressed by others on this list
with this gesture. 
I often use a nob twisting motion with my thumb and index or middle finger
or simply plant my index finger somewhere on the screen and use my middle
finger to swipe somewhere else on the screen and generate the rotor action
that way. I'll also just plant my index finger and place my middle finger on
another part of the screen and rotate my wrist to cycle through the various
options in a faster manner. That or just plant both fingers separated on the
screen and rotate the phone while leaving my fingers locked in position. It
all depends on how I'm positioned in relation to the phone. Sitting,
stretched out on the couch, reclined in bed etc.

I think I probably have more difficulty with the four finger tap for getting
to the top or bottom of the screen. That's more a function of my big mits
and the narrowness of the iPhone though I imagine.
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture

The roter seems to be my biggest problem with VO whether on the phone or the
MacAir. I have never been able to get it to behave consistently. Given
John's suggestion, I came up with a method that appears to be working for
me. Rather than using two fingers on the same hand, I use both index fingers
and move them in opposite directions. It's based on John's idea but requires
both hands and so may not be suitable for everyone.

K

On 5/31/12, Rob Harris <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I'll try it, I tried previous suggestion making sure the app knew it 
> was in
>
> control,  but for sure using  the wider rotor might have mileage.
>
> Ok, tried it; I ocnclude both elements need to be done for 
> consistency. The
>
> first touch of the typing screen doesn't produce a dot, it just 
> ensures the
>
> app is focussed.
>
> RobH@Home.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Pierson" <joncpier...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:52 PM
> Subject: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture
>
>
> Hi,
> I have watched many people having inconsistent results using the rotor 
> and I myself have not had the silly thing act the same way from 
> session to session. Now maybe it's something with the callouses on my 
> abused fingers but for whatever reason, I have not found rotoring to 
> be to my liking, until today!
>
> I was wondering first of all how much spacing between the fingers was 
> possible and apparently the answer is, a lot.
>
> What I have found most useful now, and this does work on any of the 
> phone's edges so that portrait or landscape modes shouldn't affect 
> this methid, is to use two fingers near the edges of the screen.
> Pretend the phone has a set of railroad tracks on it and that each of 
> your fingers represents a traing going in the opposite direction.
> As long as both fingers move, the gesture seems to be picked up 
> consistently.
>
> I just tried this way of changing rotor settings with a person who 
> swore that rotoring was never going to be a useful gesture because of 
> the frustration it seems to bring to many novice IOS/VO users and the 
> result was that all of the rotor's settings changed correctly on the 
> first and every try.
>
> So maybe some folks want to give this method a try and hopefully the 
> results will be as rewarding as they have been here so far.
> Now I may have to try that pinching gesture folks talk about next.
>
> Jon
>
>
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