Pinching is a VoiceOver means of text selection, but it is superceded by the 
modes of this app.
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Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture


I sometimes accidentallyinvoke a rotor gesture when swiping. What does 
pinching do?

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On Jun 1, 2012, at 4:03 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> 
wrote:

> The same goes for me. Rotoring, no or minor problems, four finger tapping 
> is a hit or miss thingy and pinching doesn't work at all. Every time i try 
> to pinch, the silly voiceover misinterprets the gesture as being a rotor 
> gesture and so changes the rotor accordingly. Anyone recognize this and 
> have a solution?
> /Krister
>
> 31 maj 2012 kl. 19:14 skrev Kim Samco:
>
>> Amen!  I have no trouble with the roter but can't do the 4 finger tap 
>> worth
>> a darn.
>>
>> Kim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cristobal [mailto:crismuno...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:09 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture
>>
>> I can't say I've had nearly the trouble expressed by others on this list
>> with this gesture.
>> I often use a nob twisting motion with my thumb and index or middle 
>> finger
>> or simply plant my index finger somewhere on the screen and use my middle
>> finger to swipe somewhere else on the screen and generate the rotor 
>> action
>> that way. I'll also just plant my index finger and place my middle finger 
>> on
>> another part of the screen and rotate my wrist to cycle through the 
>> various
>> options in a faster manner. That or just plant both fingers separated on 
>> the
>> screen and rotate the phone while leaving my fingers locked in position. 
>> It
>> all depends on how I'm positioned in relation to the phone. Sitting,
>> stretched out on the couch, reclined in bed etc.
>>
>> I think I probably have more difficulty with the four finger tap for 
>> getting
>> to the top or bottom of the screen. That's more a function of my big mits
>> and the narrowness of the iPhone though I imagine.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Kimber Gardner
>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 9:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture
>>
>> The roter seems to be my biggest problem with VO whether on the phone or 
>> the
>> MacAir. I have never been able to get it to behave consistently. Given
>> John's suggestion, I came up with a method that appears to be working for
>> me. Rather than using two fingers on the same hand, I use both index 
>> fingers
>> and move them in opposite directions. It's based on John's idea but 
>> requires
>> both hands and so may not be suitable for everyone.
>>
>> K
>>
>> On 5/31/12, Rob Harris <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> I'll try it, I tried previous suggestion making sure the app knew it
>>> was in
>>>
>>> control,  but for sure using  the wider rotor might have mileage.
>>>
>>> Ok, tried it; I ocnclude both elements need to be done for
>>> consistency. The
>>>
>>> first touch of the typing screen doesn't produce a dot, it just
>>> ensures the
>>>
>>> app is focussed.
>>>
>>> RobH@Home.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jon Pierson" <joncpier...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:52 PM
>>> Subject: The Rotor, a possible replacement gesture
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I have watched many people having inconsistent results using the rotor
>>> and I myself have not had the silly thing act the same way from
>>> session to session. Now maybe it's something with the callouses on my
>>> abused fingers but for whatever reason, I have not found rotoring to
>>> be to my liking, until today!
>>>
>>> I was wondering first of all how much spacing between the fingers was
>>> possible and apparently the answer is, a lot.
>>>
>>> What I have found most useful now, and this does work on any of the
>>> phone's edges so that portrait or landscape modes shouldn't affect
>>> this methid, is to use two fingers near the edges of the screen.
>>> Pretend the phone has a set of railroad tracks on it and that each of
>>> your fingers represents a traing going in the opposite direction.
>>> As long as both fingers move, the gesture seems to be picked up
>>> consistently.
>>>
>>> I just tried this way of changing rotor settings with a person who
>>> swore that rotoring was never going to be a useful gesture because of
>>> the frustration it seems to bring to many novice IOS/VO users and the
>>> result was that all of the rotor's settings changed correctly on the
>>> first and every try.
>>>
>>> So maybe some folks want to give this method a try and hopefully the
>>> results will be as rewarding as they have been here so far.
>>> Now I may have to try that pinching gesture folks talk about next.
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
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