Hi Devin,

A number of bugs have been fixed, but there also still are some annoying ones 
which have been present ever since the first iOS 8 beta release which means 
they have been reported to Apple now for 9 months and still are not fixed. One 
of these is the fact that you can't move most apps in the bottom row of the 
home screen (the one above the dock). I believe there are alsos till issues 
with Safari and the back button on web pages and a number of issues for braille 
users.

Apple has so far released 5 beta versions of iOS 8.2 and even though 8.2 is not 
even out yet to the public, iOS 8.3 Beta 1 has been released and 8.3 Beta 2 is 
expected next week. 8.3 Beta 1 seems to have fixed a few things, but other 
problems have been introduced so let's ope they get fixed soon.

Jonathan has written an excellent article about the just announced iOS public 
beta program which 9to5Mac has written about and which is expected to start on 
March 11 with a public beta of iOS 8.3. This means I would expect that iOS 8.2 
will be released publically before then, but who knows, maybe iOS 8.2 will 
never become a public release and Apple will stick with 8.1.3 until the publick 
release of 8.3. They are definitely doing things differently and in any case, 
the majority of the new features in the 8.2 beta are about the upcoming Apple 
Watch. Once again Jonathan has blogged about an article which states that while 
iOS 9 which will be announced in a little over 3 months during Apple's world 
wide developer conference will of course have some new features, but focus will 
be heavily about squashing bugs and on getting iOS to be what it used to be, a 
platform which is rock solid, secure and which works well without a lot of 
bugs. I think we do have good things to look forward to this year and quite a 
few Voiceover users will most likely manage to be part of that group of 100,000 
people who will get access to the iOS 8.3 and later iOS 9 public beta. Yes, I 
know people have already asked how they can register for that, but I think we 
just have to wait until Apple announces this officially and those who do want 
to participate better be on the ball since I doubt that once Apple does take 
registrations it will take long for the 100,000 spots to be filled. It would 
actually be nice if Apple set aside 1% or so of these spots specifically for 
Voiceover users maybe by registration via Apple Accessibility, but I doubt that 
will happen and we will just have to compete with everybody else..


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?

I think most of the bugs have been exterminated. Besides that, I think Alex 
alone is worth upgrading for. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2015, at 7:14 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I am still currently on 7.1.12. I didn't upgrade because of a couple of major 
> bugs in iOS 8 involving voiceover and some of the apps.
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:54 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Eric
>> 
>> What is your current version? If it is ios7.12 I would rather wait updating, 
>> if it is already ios8 whatever version it is you 'd better upgrade then to 
>> the last version.
>> Regards
>> Davy
>> 
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Eric Oyen
>> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 12:02 PM
>> To: Visually impaired phone users
>> Subject: is the new iOS for iPhones a bit more usable?
>> 
>> hello group,
>> 
>> I have been reading around and it appears that there is a security flaw in 
>> previous versions of iOS (7 and 8 - versions up to 8.1.12). So, my question 
>> is this, should I finally upgrade my iPhone 5 to the new iOS? How many of 
>> the voiceover issues have been resolved?
>> 
>> any answers to these questions would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
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