I have had a Humanware display for quite some time, and just recently it has been having a lot of trouble maintaining a good bluetooth connection. Also, when I try to read certain publications through NFB Newsline app in particular, sometimes the panning to the next line takes so long, that it isn’t worth continuing to read. I have been reporting this to NFB and they say it is on Apple’s end. However, with each update to iOS, the problem continues. Again, as usual, the blame game between companies. > On Apr 7, 2015, at 5:42 AM, Paul Hunt <prhu...@att.net> wrote: > > Hello David. From the customer’s point of view, I don’t care who’s at fault. > It takes two to tango. Humanware and Apple share responsibility for this > solution. It’s up to both of them to work together to resolve this issue. I’m > going to test with my wife’f focus 40. If all is well then I’ll reach out to > the Brailliant Project manager. If that doesn’t work I’ll reach out to the > CEO. The dialog needs to start and the problem needs to be resolved. > Otherwise, the Blindness community may have false advertising claims against > both companies. > Paul > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf > Of David Chittenden > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2015 10:19 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Problem Running Braille Display with iOS 8.2 > > An interesting response. My understanding is Apple posts its braille display > driver requirements. It also includes standard braille display drivers in the > VO code. > > Considering how HumanWare has had problems in the past with buggy code and > incompatible driver stack issues, I again will place the responsibility in > their court on this one. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com> > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 7 Apr 2015, at 11:54, Paul Hunt <prhu...@att.net <mailto:prhu...@att.net>> > wrote: > >> I believe that both companies are suffering from an emotional maturity >> problem. It's time that they stop blaming each other and take ownership. >> >> >> On Apr 6, 2015, at 6:22 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com >> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> Considering HumanWare's history, I would suspect the problem is on >>> HumanWare's end. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com> >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 7 Apr 2015, at 09:04, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I had the Brailliant too. I ended up trading it for a Focus 40 Blue >>>> because of the freezing problem. HumanWare said it was an Apple problem >>>> and Apple said it was a HumanWare problem. Every since I got the Focus, >>>> all is well. It sometimes will enter a character repeatedly like it gets >>>> stuck, but that is only happened three times so far. I wish I knew of a >>>> way to fix the Brailliant. It was a good little display! >>>> >>>> Jenn and Kumi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:36 AM -0700, "Paul Hunt" <prhu...@att.net >>>> <mailto:prhu...@att.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello everyone. I really want to know how to prevent my Brailliant >>>>> braille display from locking up while I'm writing? >>>>> Thanks so much. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On >>>>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >>>>> Sent: Monday, April 6, 2015 9:32 AM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: Problem Running Braille Display with iOS 8.2 >>>>> >>>>> Hi Scott, >>>>> >>>>> If you turn on automatic braille translation, braille input will be just >>>>> like before. Otherwise, press Space or Space with dots 4-5 to make the >>>>> current word translate. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Anna >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > On Apr 6, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Scott Davert wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Hi Paul. >>>>> > Oh yes, I've had this issue, and it's a major one for me. In fact, I'm >>>>> > in the process of writing an article about this. I suspect, but can't >>>>> > confirm, that this feature was designed to allow a person to >>>>> > immediately see what they have typed, before it goes to the >>>>> > translator. Which is fine, I guess, if you're not confident in your >>>>> > braille typing, but it would be nice if this feature could be turned >>>>> > off so that it would go back to the old way of braille keyboard input. >>>>> > >>>>> > Scott >>>>> > >>>>> > On 4/6/15, Paul Hunt wrote: >>>>> >> Hello everyone. I use a Brailliant BI 40 braille display with my >>>>> >> IPhone 5S and IOS 8.2. I don’t have any issues reading but when I >>>>> >> write, sometimes my display just locks up. I can sometimes wait for a >>>>> >> couple of seconds and it frees up. Howevr, other times it won’t free >>>>> >> and I have to either reboot everything or reestablish the pairing. >>>>> >> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility and have done numerous >>>>> >> tests with them. However, Apple, as far as I’m concerned has not >>>>> >> taken ownership of this issue. Has anyone else had issues with their >>>>> >> braille displays or with Apple refusing to take ownership? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thanks so much. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Paul >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On >>>>> >> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >>>>> >> Sent: Monday, April 6, 2015 6:35 AM >>>>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> >> Subject: Re: Problem Running Braille Display with iOS 8.2 >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hi, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The problem is that Quick Nav is on by default. That causes this >>>>> >> problem. >>>>> >> You need to turn Quick Nav off. in iOS 8.2, the only way to do that >>>>> >> is to press the left and right arrow keys together on a Bluetooth >>>>> >> keyboard. >>>>> >> Fortunately, in iOS 8.3, you’ll also be able to do it by pressing >>>>> >> Space with Q on a braille display. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Best, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Anna >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Apr 6, 2015, at 1:05 AM, Joe Quinn > > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I'm not sure that having automatic braille translation on or off >>>>> >> would >>>>> >> solve my issue. What the issue is, is when I'm in the now reading tab >>>>> >> and have a braille file loaded, and I press r to get to the reading >>>>> >> window, it actually enters an r, as if it's in a document. And it >>>>> >> used to not do that, it used to go directly to the reading window. >>>>> >> Therefore, I can never get back to the place that I was at, because I >>>>> >> have to actually dot 4-chord to the Reading window, thereby having to >>>>> >> start all the way at the beginning. >>>>> >> This is the same for and, next, and P, previous buttons. It enters >>>>> >> the actual letters, and I don't know how to fix that, unless an >>>>> >> update to the Bard mobile app is in order. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Apr 6, 2015, at 12:47 AM, Woody Anna Dresner > > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hi, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Automatic braille translation doesn’t conflict with BARD if you >>>>> >> switch braille input to 8-dot while you’re using the app. This is a >>>>> >> good idea anyway, since then each letter you type is seen as a letter >>>>> >> rather than a word. The only problem is that Quick Nav is on by >>>>> >> default, and in iOS 8.2, you need a Bluetooth keyboard to turn off >>>>> >> Quick Nav. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> HTH, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Anna >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Apr 5, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Joe Quinn > > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> But automatic Braille translation messes with the BARD navigation >>>>> >> keys, especially when reading a .brf file, as it thinks you're trying >>>>> >> to write a word. Is there anyway around this? I want my navigation >>>>> >> commands back. :-) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Apr 5, 2015, at 11:25 PM, Woody Anna Dresner > > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hi Alan, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> It sounds like your friend has automatic braille translation turned >>>>> >> off. >>>>> >> When she starts typing a word, it goes into a buffer, as indicated by >>>>> >> the full braille cells at either end of the display. When she presses >>>>> >> Space or dots 4-5-chord, the word will be entered into the text, and >>>>> >> the full braille cells will disappear. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Another option is to turn off automatic braille translation. Then >>>>> >> text is translated automatically a couple of seconds after you type >>>>> >> it, regardless of whether you’ve pressed Space or dots 4-5-chord. The >>>>> >> only problem with that is that if you stop in the middle of a word to >>>>> >> think about something, the part that you’ve already typed gets >>>>> >> back-translated, which can cause problems. For that reason, I leave >>>>> >> automatic braille translation turned off. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> HTH, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Anna >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Apr 5, 2015, at 11:09 PM, Alan Lemly > > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I have another question for my friend running iOS 8.2 on an iPhone 6. >>>>> >> Are there new commands to operate a braille display when running >>>>> >> iOS8.2? 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