EPUB is a far better format to work with from a developer and user point, especially when it comes to accessibility---it builds on web technologies: HTML, CSS, JavaScript, ARIA). PDF accessibility outside of Windows Adobe Acrobat/Reader and NVDA is is impossible (true accessible structured tags). On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 8:46 PM Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The problem may well be more complicated than that. If this app is an > aggregator, that is it excepts all these PDFs from various producers, it > probably doesn't have control over what those producers put into their > file, that is how they construct their PDF. Also, adobes guidelines about > accessibility are all about windows. Max need not apply. Adobes > accessibility guidance is not flexible. And Apple is not flexible. And > there you go. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 21, 2016, at 8:28 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote: > > There is absolutely no reason that either of these companies can't make > accessible PDFs. Seeing as there are accessible PDFs out there, they can be > made. A PDF does preserve formatting, that's the whole point of a PDF; it > retains the formatting that the author put into it, regardless of the > computer that it's viewed on. PDF is a perfectly fine format for these apps > to you use to display their newspaper contents, it just needs to be an > accessible PDF. And as we all know that accessible PDFs can be made, they > really have no excuse. I believe Adobe provides guidance on making PDFs > accessible to screen reader users. > > > Thanks, > Ari > > On Feb 21, 2016, at 4:42 PM, Flor Lynch <florl...@iol.ie> wrote: > > My local (weekly) newspaper produces a PDF in its iOS app, but it can’t be > exported to Dropbox (or a similar organ) for transfer, as there’s no option > for that in it. I’d like to be able to try putting it through KNFBReader > OCR, but cannot, for that reason anyway. > > *From:* Scott Berry <sb356...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 6:14 PM > *To:* Vi Phone <viphone@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* Re: Unacceptable Response from Issuu Support Team Regarding > VoiceOver Accessibility > Christin et al, > > I really want to thank you for bringing this to our attention. Here is my > response. I am already upset with another company so this didn’t help but > I am one to speak my mind and here is what I had to say. > > Hello there, > > I understand that another one of your people from the blind community has > already wrote you. I think that you guys are very inconsiderate and I > would not review your app due to the fact that you don’t feel that > Voiceover support is important. Why should I feel that your app is > important to my daily needs. I don’t want any sales tactics I have heard > them all. I want the same support as anyone else would get. > Secondly, I am a developer on IOS platforms and there is no reason you > could not make an option to at least scan those with some great accuracy in > to an rtf document. I really feel your a lowsy company and never come > knocking on my door until you have made your app acessible to everyone. > > Scott Berry > > > > On Feb 19, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Dear All: > > Issuu is an app which provides access to millions of magazines, > newsletters, etc., on virtually any topic you can think of. My son, who is > also a VoiceOver user, wanted to access his high school’s newspaper which > is on the platform. However, it is in an image pdf. Furthermore, trying to > get around the app is nightmarish, and it does not appear that any of the > available resources is accessible. > I wrote to their support center, and this is the response I received. My > response to that unhelpful response is first, with the response in the > middle, with my original message at the bottom. I think this is absolutely > something which should be available to those who use screen readers. If > others agree, I think we should bombard them with requests to make their > platform accessible. > Christine > > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *"Christine Grassman (issuu Support Team)" <feedb...@issuu.com> > *Subject: **Update from issuu Support Re: Poor VoiceOver accessibility* > *Date: *February 19, 2016 at 10:16:27 AM EST > *To: *Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> > *Reply-To: *issuu Support Team <feedb...@issuu.com> > > ## Please do not write below this line ## > > [image: Christine] > *Christine Grassman* > > Feb 19, 16:16 > > With all due respect, there is no excuse for this. Apple makes available > to developers, free of charge, guidelines for making apps accessible. > There's absolutely no reason not to do this. > Christine > > Sent from my iPhone > > [image: Angel] > *Angel* (Help Center) > > Feb 19, 11:51 > > Hi Christine, > > Unfortunately we don't have a way for those with visual impairments to use > screen reading technology or have a way to make our site accessible at this > time. We also haven't been informed of any plans to add that functionality > any time soon. I'm so very sorry about that. > > If we do introduce this functionality at any point, we will put up an > announcement on our blog (blog.issuu.com) and on our help center ( > help.issuu.com), so please do keep checking these places for updates. > > Please don't hesitate to write back if you have any other questions, and > we'd be happy to assist you. > > Best regards, > Angel > ------------------------------ > > issuu is on iOS <http://bit.ly/issuuonios> and Android > <http://bit.ly/IssuuOnAndroid>. > > To learn more about issuu, please visit our Help Center > <http://help.issuu.com/hc/en-us>. > > > [image: Christine] > *Christine Grassman* > > Feb 15, 22:42 > > I am blind, as are my children. We use iPhones with VoiceOver > accessibility to access text. I am deeply disappointed that Issuu is not > voiceover accessible. Only some features are accessible, and one cannot > find and read magazines. In this day and age, this is unacceptable. > Information should be accessible to us just as to others. > There is no reason why the text of your millions of publications should > not be accessible using a screen reader. I hope that you will address this > as quickly as possible. > Christine Grassman > > Sent from my iPhone > > This email is a service from Help Center. 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