It does seem poor design that we are all just left guessing at what the Repair Library button actually does? Harry
> On 3 Apr 2016, at 00:59, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: > > I don't know what it does, but Winston has a repair library option in there. > Maybe you should ask him what that does before trying it? > Richard > > Sent from my iPod 6 > >> On Apr 2, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Well, my situation keeps going from bad to worse and then to really bad. It >> started because I decided to look at my no folder list and see if there were >> duplicates in there, which there were. There were several what's new files, >> none of which is relevant except for the most recent. So I deleted those. >> Then I found apparently two copies of the same book. So I tried to delete >> one of them. Nothing happened. Both copies were still apparently there. So >> then I went back to all items and, to my surprise and dismay, I discovered >> that the only things left in my all items folder or the very same things >> that are in the know folders folder. In other words, over 900 items just >> disappeared. They were there before, even though they weren't in folders. I >> know that because I opened a couple of them, thinking that perhaps they were >> phantom labels. But the books to which the labels were attached had opened >> just fine so I just looked in iCloud storage management in settings. And >> under voice stream there are a couple of folders, one of which is library. >> And in there, there are 990 lines, each of which has a cryptic number. >> Double tapping on one of those opens a book interestingly enough. So >> clearly, I still have a back up with all of my books. But that damned reader >> isn't seeing it. Now I wonder if there's anyway to restore all this nice >> backed up material to the actual reader. I am frankly tempted to turn off >> iCloud sync invoice dream, and then see if there might be a way to restore >> what is backed up in iCloud. There is no way on gods earth I will ever be >> able to re-create this library if I can't get access to these 900 and some >> files that are backed up in iCloud. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, I can change the sort order in the All Items list, and in the new >>> folders that I have now created, but I can't change it in the No Folder >>> list. >>> >>> Nicky >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Mary Otten >>> Sent: 02 April 2016 23:53 >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders >>> >>> Can you change the sort order and you're all items list? I cannot. And for >>> those who did not lose their folder structure, can you change the sort >>> order in you're all items list? >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Thanks, Anna, the idea of selecting everything in All Items and moving it >>>> all into No Folder makes a lot of sense to me. Mary, I'm sure you're >>>> right, I'm afraid it's unlikely that you'll see any further changes to >>>> your No Folder if it's already been that way for several hours. >>>> >>>> A slight correction to my earlier post: I have been sorting out my own >>>> library and I have noticed that there were in fact three items which were >>>> still not showing up in No Folder, so my statement that everything was >>>> there was not quite accurate - my apologies! I was able to track the >>>> missing items by filtering by My Sources. >>>> >>>> Also, I can confirm that I can't change the sort order in No Folder, which >>>> is stuck on New Date. I wonder if people who did not lose their folder >>>> structure are able to change the sort order in No Folder? >>>> >>>> I have looked at the Reader/Library folder in iCloud Drive on my PC. There >>>> seems to be a folder for each item, containing a metadata file as well as >>>> the actual file constituting the item. The folder names consist of strings >>>> of numbers, so you don't know what the item is until you open its folder, >>>> which I think would make editing rather tricky. Perhaps it works >>>> differently on the Mac. >>>> >>>> Nicky >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>>> Of Woody Anna Dresner >>>> Sent: 02 April 2016 22:46 >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Would it make sense to move everything into No Folder, and then work from >>>> there? then at least the number of items would decrease. >>>> >>>> I also wonder whether the folders coincide with folders in your iCloud >>>> drive. If you have a Mac, it might be easier to use it to move the books >>>> into folders than to do it on the phone. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Anna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, I remember that as well. You were only supposed to have it open and >>>>> one device with iCloud sink happening. That was the case for me. My other >>>>> device wasn't even turned on at the time. I just went and checked my no >>>>> folder items again, and the number of those is still the same. It hasn't >>>>> changed since last night. So, I would think that nothing is happening. >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Mary, >>>>>> >>>>>> No, I didn't leave Voice Dream in the foreground or keep my screen >>>>>> unlocked. In the What's New file I noticed a reference to the app being >>>>>> in the foreground during the sync process, but I understood it to mean >>>>>> that if VDR WAS in the foreground, it should only be on one device, in >>>>>> order to avoid conflicts. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Nicky >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2016 18:50 >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Nicky, >>>>>> Thanks for the idea about waiting on the no folder filter. I guess it >>>>>> can't hurt. Did you leave the voice dream app in the foreground with the >>>>>> screen unlocked? I had locked my screen and not left the app in the >>>>>> foreground. I don't remember seeing anything in the what's new about >>>>>> having to do any of those things once the sink process started. >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 9:42 AM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I haven't posted to this list in a very long time and so I lost my >>>>>>> posting privileges, but Mark has kindly sorted things out for me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary, you have my sympathies too. I also lost my folder structure, but >>>>>>> I'm fortunate in that my library is much smaller than yours. I've made >>>>>>> a start on recreating my folders, and in my case it's turning out to be >>>>>>> easier than I expected: After the iCloud sync, at first not all my >>>>>>> items were showing up in the No Folder filter, but when I came back to >>>>>>> it later, they were all listed there. This meant that I could use the >>>>>>> No Folder filter as my starting point, and the list got shorter each >>>>>>> time I selected a group of items and moved them into a new folder. I >>>>>>> believe you said that only a few items showed up in your No Folder >>>>>>> list, but it might be worth checking it again, just in case it has >>>>>>> rectified itself, as mine did. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Incidentally, I share your delight at getting your Ivona voices back, >>>>>>> as I also lost my Ivona voices when I installed a full backup from my >>>>>>> iPhone 5s onto my new 6S. I was finally able to sort it out a few weeks >>>>>>> before the update, but I had to back up the library and reinstall the >>>>>>> app from scratch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good luck with the folders, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nicky >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2016 17:29 >>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, richard, for the sympathy. Now I wonder if it is worth my time >>>>>>> to re-create my folder structure until Winston has definitely found and >>>>>>> fixed the bug. If you want to talk about cursing, if I redo this whole >>>>>>> structure, and then lose it again when I sync up to iCloud, you are >>>>>>> going to be able to hear me all the way up in Portland from here in >>>>>>> Eugene when the cursing starts. The worst thing about this deal, aside >>>>>>> from the loss itself, is that in order to re-create the folders, I'm >>>>>>> going to have to go through each and every item in all items each time >>>>>>> I want to move things into a folder. That is because when you move >>>>>>> things into folders, they stay in all items, just like what happens >>>>>>> with Amazon Kindle. I love how iBooks does it. Move that sucker out of >>>>>>> books, and it's really moved. So the next time you go through your big >>>>>>> fat books list in order to move things into another folder, you do not >>>>>>> have to see the items you just moved previously. I actually do see >>>>>>> the merit of an all items folder. I just wish there were something >>>>>>> equivalent to the iBooks "books" folder. After all, this is just a >>>>>>> matter of index pointers. It's not like they are actually having >>>>>>> several copies of each item. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Richard Turner >>>>>>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mary, >>>>>>>> I think you showed great restraint in only using one, minor, >>>>>>>> expletive, in your statement. I would be cussing up a blue streak, not >>>>>>>> on the list of course. >>>>>>>> I cannot imagine the amount of work you lost with that many items. >>>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod 6 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I also got a reply from Winston, stating that the structure is lost >>>>>>>>> and cannot be brought back, but he is looking into the problem for a >>>>>>>>> future update. Damn! >>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 7:28 AM, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Winston has replied to say he is looking into the problem... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Apr 2016, at 13:55, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Just to make it clear, this problem happened after I did the iCloud >>>>>>>>>>> sink. When I updated to version four, all of my folders were there, >>>>>>>>>>> just as they should be. It's after I did the iCloud sink that the >>>>>>>>>>> structure went away. >>>>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:27 PM, Richard Turner >>>>>>>>>>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have not had that happen. >>>>>>>>>>>> I had folders in a particular order on my Touch and when I updated >>>>>>>>>>>> my iPhone to version 4, the folders showed up there in the same >>>>>>>>>>>> order. >>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, I have about 1/10th of the material you have. So I >>>>>>>>>>>> don't know if it is a space issue? >>>>>>>>>>>> How much memory do you have in iCloud? >>>>>>>>>>>> This sounds like a good question to send to Winston. You might >>>>>>>>>>>> want to use the contact through settings in Voice Dream. >>>>>>>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod 6 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I just did the iCloud sink for my large iPad library in voice >>>>>>>>>>>>> dream reader. Before doing the sink, I had checked to make sure >>>>>>>>>>>>> that the updating of my library had gone without a hitch, >>>>>>>>>>>>> including keeping the folder structure as it had previously been >>>>>>>>>>>>> organized. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Things look just the way they should have. On concluding the >>>>>>>>>>>>> iCloud sink however, while all of the items are there if the all >>>>>>>>>>>>> items filter is selected, if I filter by folder, the only filter >>>>>>>>>>>>> that shows up in the list is "no folder". In other words, my >>>>>>>>>>>>> several folders seem to be gone. This is somewhat daunting, given >>>>>>>>>>>>> a library of close to 1000 titles am I missing something here? I >>>>>>>>>>>>> have double tap on the no folder, thinking that perhaps if I do >>>>>>>>>>>>> that, it will bring up the list. No go. What am I missing? 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