Hi,
I also got the SE as my next phone, but I'm hoping will see a
mini 7, or a smaller, and newer SE by the time, in which case,
I'll be taking that one.
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From: christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com
To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:52:23 +0100
Subject: Re: IOS 10-- what's new in accessibility ?
Yeah, good phone, and I say enjoy the moment while it lasts,
because it sure won't come back. I personally like my 5s and my
next phone will be the SE, kind of already decided on that as
personally prefer the smaller phones than say the 6, 6+ and
later. I still have a 4s though, although deactivated it can
still be used on wi-fi, like an iPod Touch 5th Generation in this
case. Speaking of which, I have the 6th generation and like that
too.. Long live the iOS devices, I say.
On 23 Jun 2016, at 12:11, mário navarro <mario....@gmail.com>
wrote:
Yes, I still love my iPhone 4S and i will not buy other...
iPhone 4S still runs very well IOS 9 and for me serves me well
..
I know that I can no longer use the IOS 10, but I not miss
anything ....
just hope apple now in the final updates in IOS 9 fixed some
bugs. so would be with IOS 9 more stable than it is for
accessibility.
I would not sell my iPhone 4S to buy 5.
I really like this phone and I will use until he die.
long life to iphone 4S!
cheers.
On 22/06/2016 04:39, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
Well, I still find my 4S quite usable with IOS 9. I have a
iPhone 5 from my employer, which is faster, but not so much
faster that it makes my 4S unusable. Of course, I'm not
comparing it to an iPhone 6 or anything.
On 21/06/16 10:55, rajmund wrote:
Hi,
It really is slow, even considering it against a 5S. A friend
wanted me
to help. When I set it up as new, and turned on VO, at first, I
thought
it wasn't going to turn on. VO, that is.
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From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:47:49 +0100
Subject: Re: IOS 10-- what's new in accessibility ?
My 4S is still going. I used it as my primary phone for more
than three
years and still use it for music, now and again, and play around
with
apps sometimes. It's quite slow now, bearing in mind I have a
6S, but
its battery hasn't given up yet.
Carol P
On 20/06/2016 15:54, rajmund wrote:
Hi,
I heard roomers that it can be done with the 4S, but not with
later
model.
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From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:47:42 +0000
Subject: RE: IOS 10-- what's new in accessibility ?
I think it's more the experience Apple wants users to have.
Yes, they
could probably disable features the 4S may have problems with
like,
for example, the face and object recognition on pictures. They
said
that iOS does 11 Billion computations on a single picture and it
is
all done on device so it's not that powerful servers in the
cloud do
the work and just provide the results back to the device. But I
guess
if many of the new and advanced features of iOS 10 would be
disabled
on a 4S there may just not be that much reason to support it.
Considering that the 4S is now 5 years old, I also assume that
as a
percentage of iPhones out there not that many of them are 4S
phones
any more. Anyhow, I guess Apple has to draw the line somewhere,
if
they support the 4S others may say then why not support the 4.
I
actually think it's amazing they have supported the 4S for this
long,
the 4S came with iOS 5 so it was able to run 4 more versions of
iOS
after the one it came out with, show me another mobile phone
that had
this kind of support. Anyhow, iOS 9 is pretty good and people
who
still have a 4S that runs good can still run it with iOS 9 for
years
to come I assume although they may have to replace the battery
since I
doubt that a 4S that was bought in 2011 still holds a charge for
that
long. I have a friend who bought a 3GS in 2009 and he used it
until
he bought a 5S in 2013, so for 4 years, and while he of course
wanted
the newer faster phone, he also said that he only got a few
hours of
use out of the phone at that point. A friend in Germany said
her son
just bought a fairly inexpensive battery kit which came with the
special screwdriver which iks required to open the iPhone and
instructions and he would able to replace the battery on his
iPhone
(can't remember the model) himself, but I would say most people
can't
or would not do this.
Regards,
Sieghard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 11:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10-- what's new in accessibility ?
I'm not sure who does do artificial deprecation of hardware, but
I am
a bit disappointed that my 4S may no longer be supported. I'm
not
sure if there's something in the 4S that Apple no longer wants
to code
support for or if it's because they don't want users to get a
less
than great experience on an Apple device. It may also be that
they
want to save some money by not taking any support questions on
the 4S
or by doing any regression testing on it. I'd be willing to try
IOS
10 on it to see how it performced if Apple would let me though.
I'd
do this even if Apple told me it hadn't been tested and wouldn't
be
supported and I was on my own giving it a try.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I had the run I did on my 4S, but I
compare this to my netbook from 2009 that still running the
latest
Linux or my laptop from 2011 that's also running the latest
Linux but
also able to run Windows 10.
On 19/06/16 18:04, Devin Prater wrote:
Yep, and I think that shows that Apple doesn't do artificial
deprecation of hardware.
Sent from my Mac.
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On Jun 17, 2016, at 1:37 PM, christopher hallsworth
<challswor...@icloud.com <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>>
wrote:
My prediction, iOS 11 will work on the 5s and up. iOS 12, 6 and
up,
etc etc. But Apple did surprise us last year when they
announced all
devices running iOS 8 could run iOS 9. So what I put here is
only
speculation.
On 17 Jun 2016, at 02:43, Gerardo Corripio <gera1...@gmail.com
<mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
At least maybe until iOS11 probably by September of 2018 when
iOS12
comes out maybe it won't be supported anymore?
El 16/06/2016 03:28 p.m., Donna escribió:
Chris
Do you know how much longer the iPhone 5s will be supported? I'm
considering getting my soon to be teenager an iPhone 5s for
Christmas. I don't want to purchase her a phone that will only
be
supported for a short time.
Donna
Final update? For the iPhone 5? All we know is that the iPhone
4s
is due for its "final update" very soon, 9.3.3, before it will
be
considered "obsolete". Can't believe it has survived this far.
iPhone 5, however, will have at least one more year of software
support since iOS 10 will run on it and will be the oldest
iPhone
to support this upcoming major release.
On 16 Jun 2016, at 19:54, Michael McKay<mgmckay1...@gmail.com
<mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks: I am wondering if anyone knows when the final iOS
update is out for the iPhone 5. I have been told that there is
one more major update coming out for the iPhone 5 and then there
would be no more, and then I would upgrade my phone to an iPhone
6 Plus, 6S plus or seven. If someone could get back to me and
let
me know about the iPhone 5 final update it would be appreciated.
Thanks much!
Michael G. McKay BA, '05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 16, 2016, at 15:32, Krister
Ekstrom<kris...@kristersplace.com
<mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com>> wrote:
Confirmed here too. Tried the link and got a "delivery failed"
notice here too.
/Krister
16 juni 2016 kl. 19:37 skrev Michael G
McKay<mgmckay1...@gmail.com <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com>>:
Hi! Mr. Mosen:
I just tried to subscribe to the email group you mentioned. And
it returned saying that the delivery failed permanently. I used
the subscribe link you provided for the list.
Assistance would be very much appreciated.
Thanks much in advance.
Michael G. McKay BA, '05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: June 16, 2016 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10-- what's new in accessibility ?
Hi Guys, for three or four years, I've been running an email
list for registered developers and, as of last year, public
beta testers of iOS.
It's very focussed and has a lot of experienced testers, but if
you think you can contribute, you can send a blank email to:
testing-subscr...@lists.appcessible.net
<mailto:testing-subscr...@lists.appcessible.net
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
On 17/06/2016, at 12:28 AM, Liel Ben Simon ???? ??
?????<liel...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi! The beta of the developers is different from publick beta.
Only in the publick beta there is a feedbeck app.
Sent from my iphone
??-16 ????? 2016, ???? 15:20, ??Shawn Krasniuk
?<bbssh...@icloud.com> ???/?:
Well, I think for your case, they'd make an exception. You
know Matt Dierckens right? Maybe shoot him an email asking if
developer testers are discluded from that list. If you don't,
email me off list and I'll gladly send you his email address.
Shawn
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On Jun 16, 2016, at 3:36 AM, Krister
Ekstrom<kris...@kristersplace.com> wrote:
Hmm interesting, this means i will be excluded from the beta
testers list if i get that question because i'm a registered
developer and use developer betas and have never had the
feedback assistant.
/Krister
16 juni 2016 kl. 04:48 skrev Shawn
Krasniuk<bbssh...@icloud.com>:
Hi Chris. I gotta interject with you here. Being that I'm
one of the members of the beta list, it's not breaking NDA
at all. Only beta testers can subscribe to that list. The
moderators ask questions like where your Feedback Assistant
app is and if you don't have one, they'll automatically
reject your request to join. Just thought I'd clear that up
and yes, iOS 10 was available for developers as a beta
after the WWDC keynote.
Shawn
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Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle:
shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
On Jun 15, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Christopher
Chaltain<chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
That's true, but people are perfectly free to discuss
whatever Apple has announced, which would include any new
accessibility features that were announced during the
developers summit. I'm not sure there's an IOS 10 beta
yet, so no one could talk about what they're seeing in the
beta anyway.
BTW, talking about Apple's beta software, even on a beta
list, is still violating Apple's NDA with beta users.
On 15/06/16 07:12, Daniel Miller wrote:
Hi. Unfortunately, no one is allowed to post anything
about purelease software on this list. There is however,
a beta discussion group that a couple list members created.
I don't remember the address offhand to subscribe to that
though.
Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
On Jun 15, 2016, at 3:24 AM, 'Ming' via
VIPhone<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hi all!
anyone know that any new features in accessibility side
of IOS 10?
thanks and regards,
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