Hello Mario and others!
I have an iPhone 5 and will not buy another. I hope that it can be updated to
IOS 10. I also hope that there will be interesting features regarding
accessibility.
Best regards, Olya
Sendt fra min iPhone
> Den 23. jun. 2016 kl. 13.11 skrev mário navarro <mario....@gmail.com>:
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> Yes, I still love my iPhone 4S and i will not buy other...
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> iPhone 4S still runs very well IOS 9 and for me serves me well ...
> I know that I can no longer use the IOS 10, but I not miss anything ...
> just hope apple now in the final updates in IOS 9 fixed some bugs. so would
> be with IOS 9 more stable than it is for accessibility.
> I would not sell my iPhone 4S to buy 5.
> I really like this phone and I will use until he die.
>
> long life to iphone 4S!
> cheers.
>
>> On 22/06/2016 04:39, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> Well, I still find my 4S quite usable with IOS 9. I have a iPhone 5 from my
>> employer, which is faster, but not so much faster that it makes my 4S
>> unusable. Of course, I'm not comparing it to an iPhone 6 or anything.
>>
>>> On 21/06/16 10:55, rajmund wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> It really is slow, even considering it against a 5S. A friend wanted me
>>> to help. When I set it up as new, and turned on VO, at first, I thought
>>> it wasn't going to turn on. VO, that is.
>>>
>>> Sent from a BrailleNote
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date sent: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:47:49 +0100
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10-- what's new in accessibility ?
>>>
>>> My 4S is still going. I used it as my primary phone for more than three
>>> years and still use it for music, now and again, and play around with
>>> apps sometimes. It's quite slow now, bearing in mind I have a 6S, but
>>> its battery hasn't given up yet.
>>>
>>>
>>> Carol P
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20/06/2016 15:54, rajmund wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I heard roomers that it can be done with the 4S, but not with later
>>> model.
>>>
>>> Sent from a BrailleNote
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
>>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date sent: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:47:42 +0000
>>> Subject: RE: IOS 10-- what's new in accessibility ?
>>>
>>> I think it's more the experience Apple wants users to have. Yes, they
>>> could probably disable features the 4S may have problems with like,
>>> for example, the face and object recognition on pictures. They said
>>> that iOS does 11 Billion computations on a single picture and it is
>>> all done on device so it's not that powerful servers in the cloud do
>>> the work and just provide the results back to the device. But I guess
>>> if many of the new and advanced features of iOS 10 would be disabled
>>> on a 4S there may just not be that much reason to support it.
>>> Considering that the 4S is now 5 years old, I also assume that as a
>>> percentage of iPhones out there not that many of them are 4S phones
>>> any more. Anyhow, I guess Apple has to draw the line somewhere, if
>>> they support the 4S others may say then why not support the 4. I
>>> actually think it's amazing they have supported the 4S for this long,
>>> the 4S came with iOS 5 so it was able to run 4 more versions of iOS
>>> after the one it came out with, show me another mobile phone that had
>>> this kind of support. Anyhow, iOS 9 is pretty good and people who
>>> still have a 4S that runs good can still run it with iOS 9 for years
>>> to come I assume although they may have to replace the battery since I
>>> doubt that a 4S that was bought in 2011 still holds a charge for that
>>> long. I have a friend who bought a 3GS in 2009 and he used it until
>>> he bought a 5S in 2013, so for 4 years, and while he of course wanted
>>> the newer faster phone, he also said that he only got a few hours of
>>> use out of the phone at that point. A friend in Germany said her son
>>> just bought a fairly inexpensive battery kit which came with the
>>> special screwdriver which iks required to open the iPhone and
>>> instructions and he would able to replace the battery on his iPhone
>>> (can't remember the model) himself, but I would say most people can't
>>> or would not do this.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 11:30 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10-- what's new in accessibility ?
>>>
>>> I'm not sure who does do artificial deprecation of hardware, but I am
>>> a bit disappointed that my 4S may no longer be supported. I'm not
>>> sure if there's something in the 4S that Apple no longer wants to code
>>> support for or if it's because they don't want users to get a less
>>> than great experience on an Apple device. It may also be that they
>>> want to save some money by not taking any support questions on the 4S
>>> or by doing any regression testing on it. I'd be willing to try IOS
>>> 10 on it to see how it performced if Apple would let me though. I'd
>>> do this even if Apple told me it hadn't been tested and wouldn't be
>>> supported and I was on my own giving it a try.
>>>
>>> Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I had the run I did on my 4S, but I
>>> compare this to my netbook from 2009 that still running the latest
>>> Linux or my laptop from 2011 that's also running the latest Linux but
>>> also able to run Windows 10.
>>>
>>> On 19/06/16 18:04, Devin Prater wrote:
>>> Yep, and I think that shows that Apple doesn't do artificial
>>> deprecation of hardware.
>>> Sent from my Mac.
>>>
>>> Devin Prater
>>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 1:37 PM, christopher hallsworth
>>> <challswor...@icloud.com <mailto:challswor...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> My prediction, iOS 11 will work on the 5s and up. iOS 12, 6 and up,
>>> etc etc. But Apple did surprise us last year when they announced all
>>> devices running iOS 8 could run iOS 9. So what I put here is only
>>> speculation.
>>> On 17 Jun 2016, at 02:43, Gerardo Corripio <gera1...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> At least maybe until iOS11 probably by September of 2018 when iOS12
>>> comes out maybe it won't be supported anymore?
>>>
>>> El 16/06/2016 03:28 p.m., Donna escribió:
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Do you know how much longer the iPhone 5s will be supported? I'm
>>> considering getting my soon to be teenager an iPhone 5s for
>>> Christmas. I don't want to purchase her a phone that will only be
>>> supported for a short time.
>>>
>>> Donna
>>> Final update? For the iPhone 5? All we know is that the iPhone 4s
>>> is due for its "final update" very soon, 9.3.3, before it will be
>>> considered "obsolete". Can't believe it has survived this far.
>>> iPhone 5, however, will have at least one more year of software
>>> support since iOS 10 will run on it and will be the oldest iPhone
>>> to support this upcoming major release.
>>> On 16 Jun 2016, at 19:54, Michael McKay<mgmckay1...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi folks: I am wondering if anyone knows when the final iOS
>>> update is out for the iPhone 5. I have been told that there is
>>> one more major update coming out for the iPhone 5 and then there
>>> would be no more, and then I would upgrade my phone to an iPhone
>>> 6 Plus, 6S plus or seven. If someone could get back to me and let
>>> me know about the iPhone 5 final update it would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks much!
>>> Michael G. McKay BA, '05.
>>> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 15:32, Krister
>>> Ekstrom<kris...@kristersplace.com
>>> <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Confirmed here too. Tried the link and got a "delivery failed"
>>> notice here too.
>>> /Krister
>>>
>>> 16 juni 2016 kl. 19:37 skrev Michael G
>>> McKay<mgmckay1...@gmail.com <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com>>:
>>>
>>> Hi! Mr. Mosen:
>>>
>>> I just tried to subscribe to the email group you mentioned. And
>>> it returned saying that the delivery failed permanently. I used
>>> the subscribe link you provided for the list.
>>>
>>> Assistance would be very much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks much in advance.
>>>
>>> Michael G. McKay BA, '05.
>>> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
>>> Sent: June 16, 2016 1:44 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10-- what's new in accessibility ?
>>>
>>> Hi Guys, for three or four years, I've been running an email
>>> list for registered developers and, as of last year, public
>>> beta testers of iOS.
>>> It's very focussed and has a lot of experienced testers, but if
>>> you think you can contribute, you can send a blank email to:
>>> testing-subscr...@lists.appcessible.net
>>> <mailto:testing-subscr...@lists.appcessible.net
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org
>>>
>>> On 17/06/2016, at 12:28 AM, Liel Ben Simon ???? ??
>>> ?????<liel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi! The beta of the developers is different from publick beta.
>>> Only in the publick beta there is a feedbeck app.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iphone
>>>
>>> ??-16 ????? 2016, ???? 15:20, ??Shawn Krasniuk
>>> ?<bbssh...@icloud.com> ???/?:
>>>
>>> Well, I think for your case, they'd make an exception. You
>>> know Matt Dierckens right? Maybe shoot him an email asking if
>>> developer testers are discluded from that list. If you don't,
>>> email me off list and I'll gladly send you his email address.
>>>
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle:
>>> shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 3:36 AM, Krister
>>> Ekstrom<kris...@kristersplace.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmm interesting, this means i will be excluded from the beta
>>> testers list if i get that question because i'm a registered
>>> developer and use developer betas and have never had the
>>> feedback assistant.
>>> /Krister
>>>
>>> 16 juni 2016 kl. 04:48 skrev Shawn
>>> Krasniuk<bbssh...@icloud.com>:
>>>
>>> Hi Chris. I gotta interject with you here. Being that I'm
>>> one of the members of the beta list, it's not breaking NDA
>>> at all. Only beta testers can subscribe to that list. The
>>> moderators ask questions like where your Feedback Assistant
>>> app is and if you don't have one, they'll automatically
>>> reject your request to join. Just thought I'd clear that up
>>> and yes, iOS 10 was available for developers as a beta
>>> after the WWDC keynote.
>>>
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle:
>>> shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Christopher
>>> Chaltain<chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's true, but people are perfectly free to discuss
>>> whatever Apple has announced, which would include any new
>>> accessibility features that were announced during the
>>> developers summit. I'm not sure there's an IOS 10 beta
>>> yet, so no one could talk about what they're seeing in the
>>> beta anyway.
>>>
>>> BTW, talking about Apple's beta software, even on a beta
>>> list, is still violating Apple's NDA with beta users.
>>>
>>> On 15/06/16 07:12, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi. Unfortunately, no one is allowed to post anything
>>> about purelease software on this list. There is however,
>>> a beta discussion group that a couple list members created.
>>> I don't remember the address offhand to subscribe to that
>>> though.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 3:24 AM, 'Ming' via
>>> VIPhone<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all!
>>> anyone know that any new features in accessibility side
>>> of IOS 10?
>>>
>>> thanks and regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Ming
>>>
>>> msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
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>>> chungchiming9950
>>>
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>>> http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1
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