Know, right? I'd be more than happy to send one of those for a real, proper, torture test. For me, its not even for accessibility, just something to play with. Another OS, to put it this way. Then if I like it, I'll give the respective apology. But for now...
Sent from a Braille Sense ----- Original Message ----- From: Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, July 31, 2016 7:11 pm Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think [was "Questions regarding the IPod"] > > > Lately it has crossed my mind that i want to test Android, just to see how > much closer it is to iPhone. Yes i know it's a sinn to think this way, for > thou shalt not have any other operating systems besides iOs, still i want to > know how good it is before i totally bash it.:-) It's good to know a products > strengths and weeknesses right? > /Krister > > > 31 juli 2016 kl. 18:35 skrev Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com>: > > > > Hi, Besides, some of us, like myself, hate the OS, putting accessibility > > aside. I'll get one to play with, but not to replace anything. > > > > > > > > Sent from a Braille Sense > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Date: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:44 pm > > Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think [was > > "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"] > > > >> > >> > >> And what about upgradability? Not all Android devices support or have the > >> latest versions and not all can support them which means that we have even > >> more special questions to ask the dealers who probably won't know because > >> they are in big chains and they only sell, they do not know a thing about > >> what they sell and definitely no blindness specific stuff. At least that's > >> the way in Sweden now. > >> /Krister > >> > >>> 31 juli 2016 kl. 15:53 skrev Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>: > >>> > >>> That may be, but does android have all of the same apps I use on my ipad > >>> mini? > >>> > >>> It's my understanding that voice dream reader is a lot better on the ipad > >>> than on a android device? > >>> > >>> From: Kevin Chao <mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com> > >>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:33 PM > >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > >>> Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think > >>> [was "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"] > >>> > >>> Current Android 7 and TalkBack 5 accessibility user experience matches > >>> iOS 10 VoiceOVEr in most areas and exceeds in other areas. > >>> I'll agree that earlier Android accessibility was sub-optimal and had a > >>> lot to be desired, but I'd encourage screen reader users to try modern > >>> Android TalkBack. You'll be pleasantly surprised, but to be fair it is > >>> difficult to let go of legacy experiences one may have. > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:15 PM Terri Stimmel > >>> <icecreamlove...@outlook.com <mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote: > >>>> Hello there Christopher, > >>>> > >>>> Thank you for giving you giving me your dots and opinions on android > >>>> tablets and phones. I really appreciate it. That was very kind of you. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> However, I am not at all interested in having an android cabinet. I > >>>> tried one a few months ago, and I really dislike it. Before that, I had > >>>> an earlier version of a tablet, and I really dislike that as well. At > >>>> one point, along time ago, I had an android phone, and I never like that > >>>> thing. I know some people love android products, and that is there > >>>> right, and their choice. But I am not one of them. I know my iPhone, and > >>>> other Apple products, can have their limitations. But I can live with > >>>> those limitations. But thank you again for giving me your thoughts on > >>>> this matter. I do appreciate it. > >>>> > >>>> Terri > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com > >>>>> <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> There's a lot of good reasons not to get an Android tablet, one of > >>>>> which is that you may not want to learn another interface and screen > >>>>> reader, but it's getting hard to say that Android tablets aren't very > >>>>> accessible. Jonathan Mosen has a good article talking about his > >>>>> experience with an Android phone, and based on that article, and some > >>>>> other reasons, I got a Samsung S7 Active to go along with my Nexus 7 > >>>>> tablet. The iPhone definitely has it's strengths, but depending on what > >>>>> you do with the phone, an Android phone or tablet is quite accessible. > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 27/07/16 15:24, Terri Stimmel wrote: > >>>>>> Hello everybody, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Well, I will not be getting an iPod after all. > >>>>>> I called AT&T, to see when I could upgrade my phone. I want more > >>>>>> memory on my phone. I was told I could upgrade in February. I don't > >>>>>> know if I will upgrade now. But I might. Anyway, when I was talking to > >>>>>> the lady, she told me that they were running a great promotion on > >>>>>> tablets. I told her then I would blind, and that I did not want an > >>>>>> android tablet because I didn't feel they were very accessible. > >>>>>> So she looked to see what she could offer me. She said she could offer > >>>>>> me an iPad mini, but it was the second generation. I don't know much > >>>>>> about iPads, so I asked her what the latest generation was. She told > >>>>>> me the latest generation wasn't for. So I told her that's what I > >>>>>> wanted. I know I will be paying on it for a while, but the payments > >>>>>> were small. So I decided to go with the 64 gig model. I thought that > >>>>>> would give me plenty of space to do whatever I wanted to do. I got it > >>>>>> in silver. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It should arrive in about five days. I'm very excited about this! No I > >>>>>> don't feel so over whelmed, when it comes to making a decision as to > >>>>>> what kind of device to get, or not to get. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In a little while, I will write a post and ask about iPads. Like I > >>>>>> said, I don't know much about them. So I need to learn some things. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you all for all of the help and support. I really appreciate it > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you, and have a great day! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Terri > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Carol Forrester > >>>>>>> <carol.l.forres...@me.com <mailto:carol.l.forres...@me.com>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 27 Jul 2016, at 19:52, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>> <mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hello Terri, > >>>>>>>> Other places other than Apple offer refurbished iPods. I got both > >>>>>>>> of my kids refurbished 5th generation iPods a couple of years ago > >>>>>>>> from Walmart. I have also seen used or refurbished iPods at places > >>>>>>>> like Best Buy and Amazon. Just go to their site and do a search for > >>>>>>>> Refurbished iPod and see what comes up. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> For audio books and movies, I would also recommend dropbox to help > >>>>>>>> free up some space on your phone. Dropbox is a great storage > >>>>>>>> solution when you do not have a lot of space on your phone. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hope this helps. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Chris > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Terri Stimmel > >>>>>>>>> <icecreamlove...@outlook.com <mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi there,Sieghard > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you for letting me know this. I was wondering if she had > >>>>>>>>> given me incorrect information. So I did more research into it. It > >>>>>>>>> wasn't easy to find, honestly. But I did discover he was incorrect. > >>>>>>>>> I am at a loss as to what to do. I really don't want to devices. I > >>>>>>>>> mean, that does seem kind of silly. I know why people do it, and I > >>>>>>>>> know why I want to do it. But I don't really have the money to put > >>>>>>>>> in to buying a brand-new iPod, and they do have refurbished one. > >>>>>>>>> That was supposed to be, they do not have refurbished ones. I just > >>>>>>>>> want to be able to enjoy my shows and stuff, without having a lot > >>>>>>>>> of distractions. But then when I worry I'm not getting my texts or > >>>>>>>>> things of that nature, I get concerned and I am missing important > >>>>>>>>> things. Sometimes I am, and sometimes I'm not. I wish I had > >>>>>>>>> purchased an iPhone with more memory. But I can't upgrade for a > >>>>>>>>> while now.. Mine only has 16 gigs, but it looks more like I only > >>>>>>>>> have about 11 gigs every level. I think the last time I looked I > >>>>>>>>> had a little over five gigs of space. So that is hard to work with. > >>>>>>>>> I would like to put audiobooks, and some music, and some other > >>>>>>>>> stuff on my phone. But I haven't used iTunes in a long time, and I > >>>>>>>>> am not fond of it. When I did use it, I hated it! But I know I am > >>>>>>>>> not the only one that feels this way. So maybe I will use dropbox > >>>>>>>>> after all, at least as much as I can. Well I appreciate you and the > >>>>>>>>> list listening to me ramble. I just needed to get this stuff said. > >>>>>>>>> I guess I will stick with just my iPhone for now. Maybe I could > >>>>>>>>> take some applications off of it that I really don't use, and that > >>>>>>>>> might give me more space. I don't know. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you so much! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Terri > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca > >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Terri, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> She gave you wrong information, they said in the keynote when iOS > >>>>>>>>>> 10 was introduced that the only iPod that can run iOS 10 is the > >>>>>>>>>> iPod sixth generation. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:38 AM > >>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Someone suggested that I look on the Apple website, to see if I > >>>>>>>>>> could find a refurbished model. For either the fifth generation, > >>>>>>>>>> or the sixth generation. So I did this. When I couldn't find > >>>>>>>>>> anything, I decided to call Apple. I spoke with a very nice lady > >>>>>>>>>> who told me that they had not had any refurbished models for at > >>>>>>>>>> least a couple of months now. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I asked her if you knew whether or not the fifth generation would > >>>>>>>>>> support iOS 10. She said that it would. > >>>>>>>>>> So now I am rather confused why summer you feel that it won't. > >>>>>>>>>> Where have you read this, or heard this? Why would that lady be > >>>>>>>>>> wrong? > >>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying she is or isn't, it's just something I'm curious > >>>>>>>>>> about. I want to learn more about this, so I understand this. > >>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much! > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Terri > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 8:56 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> There's also the chance that when the new devices come out this > >>>>>>>>>>> fal, > >>>>>>>>>>> the iPod 6th gen may drop in price. I don't know if Apple will > >>>>>>>>>>> update > >>>>>>>>>>> the iPod line, just throwing something out. While having the > >>>>>>>>>>> latest > >>>>>>>>>>> and greatest may not be important for you, realize that as time > >>>>>>>>>>> goes > >>>>>>>>>>> by, certain new features may not be available. I would also advise > >>>>>>>>>>> waiting a few months to see what happens with new hardware and > >>>>>>>>>>> price > >>>>>>>>>>> ddrops, but if you really don't mind having older equipment, then > >>>>>>>>>>> go > >>>>>>>>>>> for it. Yes you should be able to update your apps, but again, if > >>>>>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>>>>> add features which your hardeware does not support, then you will > >>>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>>> be able to use those features. Also, from time to time apps drop > >>>>>>>>>>> support for older hardware in order to stay current. I don't know > >>>>>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>>>>> this will happen with the iPod 5th gen, but it is possible. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Good luck, > >>>>>>>>>>> Wayne > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/16, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> It is hard to say, but I have had some apps come out with updates > >>>>>>>>>>>> that I could not get since I was not running the most recent > >>>>>>>>>>>> version of ios. > >>>>>>>>>>>> So after ios 10 comes out, the apps you are using might still > >>>>>>>>>>>> support > >>>>>>>>>>>> ios 9 at first, but after a while they will probably drop that > >>>>>>>>>>>> support. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> You could always run the version you had currently on your iPod, > >>>>>>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>>>>>> there is no guarantee that you will always be able to update to > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>> most recent version of the app, especially since the iPod 5 will > >>>>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>>>> be supported by ios 10. > >>>>>>>>>>>> So if having the most recent version of the app is important to > >>>>>>>>>>>> you, > >>>>>>>>>>>> then you should maybe wait, continue to save until you could get > >>>>>>>>>>>> an iPod 6. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Terri Stimmel > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <icecreamlove...@outlook.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone who has contacted me, regarding my iPod touch > >>>>>>>>>>>>> questions. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I really appreciate it. I know I should probably buy the latest > >>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod. But the money just isn't there right now. Plus I don't > >>>>>>>>>>>>> need it > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to do everything. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I also realize that I could put stuff on my phone, and listen > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to it > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that way. But I honestly don't have a lot of space left on my > >>>>>>>>>>>>> phone. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a 16 gig model and I think it have about five gigs of > >>>>>>>>>>>>> space > >>>>>>>>>>>>> left. I know I could put it on disturb also. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I don't really want to do that, because I get some > >>>>>>>>>>>>> important texts and calls during the day. So I wouldn't want to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> miss > >>>>>>>>>>>>> those, because the Phone was on do not disturb. So this is why I > >>>>>>>>>>>>> have decided to go with this generation iPod. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Long as I am able to do what I want with it, and that is fine > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>>>>> me. Now here is my question. If my application such as, Spotify, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> tuna in, 50 radio Pro, and maybe a couple others I can't think > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of at > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the moment, I have updates, when I likely still be able to get > >>>>>>>>>>>>> these > >>>>>>>>>>>>> updates? That is my biggest concern! I would really appreciated > >>>>>>>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone could answer that for me. I don't mind if I cannot > >>>>>>>>>>>>> upgrade > >>>>>>>>>>>>> past nine. I don't see why that would matter to me, unless it > >>>>>>>>>>>>> got to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a point where I could not do my update for my application. Then > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>> would definitely be a problem. Thank you for all the help so > >>>>>>>>>>>>> far. It > >>>>>>>>>>>>> really does mean a lot to me. Sorry this message is a little > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sloppy. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using dictation. I have never learned how to correct my > >>>>>>>>>>>>> mistakes, when using dictation. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day! > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> TerriSent from my iPhone > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <siegh...@live..ca <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terri, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As Christopher already said, the only iPod that can run iOS 10 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be the sixth generation, the fifth generation stops at iOS 9.. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not a big concern for now if all you want to do is run > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spotify, listen to Audio books and so on. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally I think it's a waste of money, if you don't want > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> notifications while you listen to a book or music just bring up > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SIRI and say "Turn on Do Not Disturb". > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as getting stuff onto the iPod Touch it is identical to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an iPhone. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you can use Dropbox or any number of other cloud services > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> access stuff inside their apps, but if you want the music app > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes is the only way and if you avoid iTunes with your iPhone > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then you will also avoid it with the iPod Touch. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I started out with an iPod Touch in 2009 and then got the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone 4 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2010. A month or two after I got the iPhone I sold my iPod > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Touch > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it was just sitting in the drawer. The same happened > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I bought my 6S. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I kept my 5S at the time and thought maybe I use it at home for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Audible and stuff like that, but I just never did because I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> prefer > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use one device instead of two which essentially do the same > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sieghard > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of christopher hallsworth > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 9:37 AM > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct. iPhone 5 and later, iPad 4, iPad Mini 2 and later, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPad > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pro both > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 and 9.7-inch and iPod Touch 6th Generation will all run iOS > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2016, at 16:01, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's my understanding some of the older devices will be able > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run Ios 10. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:34 PM > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Questions regarding the IPod > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terry, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to Amazon.com the new 32 gig iPod Touch 6th gen is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selling for $242. There are used models listing for as little > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as $174. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using some sort of cloud backup such as Dropbox to transfer > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in and out of your iPod will be very slow as you will have to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upload the large files to Dropbox then download them into your > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod Touch. Learning to use iTunes will make this process > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much faster--when iTunes becomes more user friendly. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should really, really try to get the newer 6th generation > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because if you buy the older 5th gen it will be of little use > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you going forward since it will no longer be upgradeable to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> newer > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions of iOS--you'll be stuck with iOS 9 the remainder of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time you own this device--you will regret it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the Amazon.com link: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazon.com: Apple iPod touch 32GB Blue (6th Generation): > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Electronics - https://is.gd/XjWxoW <https://is.gd/XjWxoW> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JR > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viph...@googlegroups..com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:00 PM > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Richard, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for your advice. I really appreciate it. I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait and save up money to get the six generation model, but > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard for me to save up money. So that is why I am taking what > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can get. Maybe there is not the greatest idea. But I know if I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait for a while, the prices for the sixth generation will > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully go down. So by then, maybe I will be able to afford > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But for now, I don't really want to wait on that. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In all honestly, I don't put anything on my iPhone right > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now.. It's > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only a 16 gig model, so it cannot hold much. I do read some > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through to noon, and I listen to stuff through Spotify. That > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be tuning in. Also, I do have voice reader on my > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, as well as dropbox. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I use dropbox more. I do plan to put all these programs > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on my > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod, once I get it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the books, and the movies I would be putting onto the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are currently on my hard drive. So maybe I could put them into > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dropbox and look at them that way on the iPhone? I don't > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know. I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would do anything not to have to use iTunes. Right now for my > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone I have it sync on Wi-Fi. Maybe that is not the best > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I will admit, I do not know how to take things off my > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or really put them on there. I've never done it. Thank you > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for your help. If you have any more advice, or suggestions, I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would really appreciate that. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a good night! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terri > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Richard Turner > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You get things on and off the iPod the same way you do with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can choose in iTunes to not have anything automatically > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sync > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the iPod. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes will show that you have two devices and you can > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> select the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one you have plugged in and only put certain things on it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do not have to enable mail on the touch. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would strongly recommend, however, that you consider > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saving up > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the iPod Touch 6th generation. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how much longer Apple will support the 5th > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation and as one who has owned both, the 6 is worth it.. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For your mp3 books, are you using Voice Dream Reader or just > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> treating them as books through iTunes? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Audio described movies will show up in the video app if you > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transferring them with iTunes. Or, are these just mp3 files > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blind Mice or somewhere? If just mp3 files, again, Voice > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dream > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reader would handle them fine and you can get them on your > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through DropBox rather than going through the pains of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I too have an iPhone and an iPod for similar reasons. I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have a device dedicated to listening to music and reading > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> books. I find I do other things with it, but those are the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main two things. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viph...@googlegroups..com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 1:25 PM > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Questions regarding the IPod > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am considering purchasing an IPod Touch, 5th generation. I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not want the latest one, because I feel I just can't afford > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also, I don't think I need all those features. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So here are some questions I have. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do I have to activate male on the IPod. I receive my mail on > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, and I really do not want it in both places. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I have a lot of audio described movies, is there a way > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add these to the IPod? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, how would I do this? Would they go in to a certain > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I have a lot of audiobooks in MP3 format. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would they have to go in to a certain folder as well? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess my main question is, can any MP3 file be put on the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IPod? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once I add something, is it easy to remove? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, how do I keep photos off the IPod? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, I want these to stay on my phone. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My reason for wanting to purchase an IPod, is so I can > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listen to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff without interruptions.. For instance, I have a Spotify > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account. I want to put the app on my IPod, and listen to the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> music from my Bluetooth speaker. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, when I listen with my phone, even though I mute > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, some notices still come through. Even with the screen > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> locked. So I am tired of this, and do not want it anymore. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help with all this will be much appreciated. I may have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions to come. Especially when it comes to ITunes. 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Not all Android devices support or have the > >> latest versions and not all can support them which means that we have even > >> more special questions to ask the dealers who probably won't know because > >> they are in big chains and they only sell, they do not know a thing about > >> what they sell and definitely no blindness specific stuff. At least that's > >> the way in Sweden now. > >> /Krister > >> > >> > >> 31 juli 2016 kl. 15:53 skrev Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>: > >> > >> > >> That may be, but does android have all of the same apps I use on my ipad > >> mini? > >> > >> It's my understanding that voice dream reader is a lot better on the ipad > >> than on a android device? > >> > >> From: Kevin Chao > >> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 1:33 PM > >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >> Subject: Re: Android tablet accessibility may be better than you think > >> [was "Re: Questions regarding the IPod"] > >> > >> Current Android 7 and TalkBack 5 accessibility user experience matches iOS > >> 10 VoiceOVEr in most areas and exceeds in other areas. > >> I'll agree that earlier Android accessibility was sub-optimal and had a > >> lot to be desired, but I'd encourage screen reader users to try modern > >> Android TalkBack. You'll be pleasantly surprised, but to be fair it is > >> difficult to let go of legacy experiences one may have. > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:15 PM Terri Stimmel > >> <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hello there Christopher, > >> > >> Thank you for giving you giving me your dots and opinions on android > >> tablets and phones. I really appreciate it. That was very kind of you. > >> > >> > >> > >> However, I am not at all interested in having an android cabinet. I tried > >> one a few months ago, and I really dislike it. Before that, I had an > >> earlier version of a tablet, and I really dislike that as well. At one > >> point, along time ago, I had an android phone, and I never like that > >> thing. I know some people love android products, and that is there right, > >> and their choice. But I am not one of them. I know my iPhone, and other > >> Apple products, can have their limitations. But I can live with those > >> limitations. But thank you again for giving me your thoughts on this > >> matter. I do appreciate it. > >> > >> Terri > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> There's a lot of good reasons not to get an Android tablet, one of which > >>> is that you may not want to learn another interface and screen reader, > >>> but it's getting hard to say that Android tablets aren't very accessible. > >>> Jonathan Mosen has a good article talking about his experience with an > >>> Android phone, and based on that article, and some other reasons, I got a > >>> Samsung S7 Active to go along with my Nexus 7 tablet. The iPhone > >>> definitely has it's strengths, but depending on what you do with the > >>> phone, an Android phone or tablet is quite accessible. > >>> > >>>> On 27/07/16 15:24, Terri Stimmel wrote: > >>>> Hello everybody, > >>>> > >>>> Well, I will not be getting an iPod after all. > >>>> I called AT&T, to see when I could upgrade my phone. I want more memory > >>>> on my phone. I was told I could upgrade in February. I don't know if I > >>>> will upgrade now. But I might. Anyway, when I was talking to the lady, > >>>> she told me that they were running a great promotion on tablets. I told > >>>> her then I would blind, and that I did not want an android tablet > >>>> because I didn't feel they were very accessible. > >>>> So she looked to see what she could offer me. She said she could offer > >>>> me an iPad mini, but it was the second generation. I don't know much > >>>> about iPads, so I asked her what the latest generation was. She told me > >>>> the latest generation wasn't for. So I told her that's what I wanted. I > >>>> know I will be paying on it for a while, but the payments were small. So > >>>> I decided to go with the 64 gig model. I thought that would give me > >>>> plenty of space to do whatever I wanted to do. I got it in silver. > >>>> > >>>> It should arrive in about five days. I'm very excited about this! No I > >>>> don't feel so over whelmed, when it comes to making a decision as to > >>>> what kind of device to get, or not to get. > >>>> > >>>> In a little while, I will write a post and ask about iPads. Like I said, > >>>> I don't know much about them. So I need to learn some things. > >>>> > >>>> Thank you all for all of the help and support. I really appreciate it > >>>> > >>>> Thank you, and have a great day! > >>>> > >>>> Terri > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Carol Forrester <carol.l.forres...@me.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 27 Jul 2016, at 19:52, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hello Terri, > >>>>>> Other places other than Apple offer refurbished iPods. I got both of > >>>>>> my kids refurbished 5th generation iPods a couple of years ago from > >>>>>> Walmart. I have also seen used or refurbished iPods at places like > >>>>>> Best Buy and Amazon. Just go to their site and do a search for > >>>>>> Refurbished iPod and see what comes up. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> For audio books and movies, I would also recommend dropbox to help > >>>>>> free up some space on your phone. Dropbox is a great storage solution > >>>>>> when you do not have a lot of space on your phone. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hope this helps. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Chris > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Terri Stimmel > >>>>>>> <icecreamlove...@outlook..com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi there,Sieghard > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thank you for letting me know this. I was wondering if she had given > >>>>>>> me incorrect information. So I did more research into it. It wasn't > >>>>>>> easy to find, honestly. But I did discover he was incorrect. > >>>>>>> I am at a loss as to what to do. I really don't want to devices. I > >>>>>>> mean, that does seem kind of silly. I know why people do it, and I > >>>>>>> know why I want to do it. But I don't really have the money to put in > >>>>>>> to buying a brand-new iPod, and they do have refurbished one. That > >>>>>>> was supposed to be, they do not have refurbished ones. I just want to > >>>>>>> be able to enjoy my shows and stuff, without having a lot of > >>>>>>> distractions. But then when I worry I'm not getting my texts or > >>>>>>> things of that nature, I get concerned and I am missing important > >>>>>>> things. Sometimes I am, and sometimes I'm not. I wish I had purchased > >>>>>>> an iPhone with more memory. But I can't upgrade for a while now. Mine > >>>>>>> only has 16 gigs, but it looks more like I only have about 11 gigs > >>>>>>> every level. I think the last time I looked I had a little over five > >>>>>>> gigs of space. So that is hard to work with. I would like to put > >>>>>>> audiobooks, and some music, and some other stuff on my phone. But I > >>>>>>> haven't used iTunes in a long time, and I am not fond of it. When I > >>>>>>> did use it, I hated it! But I know I am not the only one that feels > >>>>>>> this way. So maybe I will use dropbox after all, at least as much as > >>>>>>> I can. Well I appreciate you and the list listening to me ramble. I > >>>>>>> just needed to get this stuff said.. I guess I will stick with just > >>>>>>> my iPhone for now. Maybe I could take some applications off of it > >>>>>>> that I really don't use, and that might give me more space. I don't > >>>>>>> know. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thank you so much! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Terri > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi Terri, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> She gave you wrong information, they said in the keynote when iOS 10 > >>>>>>>> was introduced that the only iPod that can run iOS 10 is the iPod > >>>>>>>> sixth generation. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Terri Stimmel > >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:38 AM > >>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hello everybody, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Someone suggested that I look on the Apple website, to see if I > >>>>>>>> could find a refurbished model. For either the fifth generation, or > >>>>>>>> the sixth generation. So I did this. When I couldn't find anything, > >>>>>>>> I decided to call Apple. I spoke with a very nice lady who told me > >>>>>>>> that they had not had any refurbished models for at least a couple > >>>>>>>> of months now. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I asked her if you knew whether or not the fifth generation would > >>>>>>>> support iOS 10. She said that it would. > >>>>>>>> So now I am rather confused why summer you feel that it won't. Where > >>>>>>>> have you read this, or heard this? Why would that lady be wrong? > >>>>>>>> I'm not saying she is or isn't, it's just something I'm curious > >>>>>>>> about. I want to learn more about this, so I understand this. Thank > >>>>>>>> you so much! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Terri > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 8:56 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> There's also the chance that when the new devices come out this fal, > >>>>>>>>> the iPod 6th gen may drop in price. I don't know if Apple will > >>>>>>>>> update > >>>>>>>>> the iPod line, just throwing something out. While having the latest > >>>>>>>>> and greatest may not be important for you, realize that as time goes > >>>>>>>>> by, certain new features may not be available. I would also advise > >>>>>>>>> waiting a few months to see what happens with new hardware and price > >>>>>>>>> ddrops, but if you really don't mind having older equipment, then go > >>>>>>>>> for it. Yes you should be able to update your apps, but again, if > >>>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>>> add features which your hardeware does not support, then you will > >>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>> be able to use those features. Also, from time to time apps drop > >>>>>>>>> support for older hardware in order to stay current. I don't know if > >>>>>>>>> this will happen with the iPod 5th gen, but it is possible. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Good luck, > >>>>>>>>> Wayne > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/16, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> It is hard to say, but I have had some apps come out with updates > >>>>>>>>>> that I could not get since I was not running the most recent > >>>>>>>>>> version of ios. > >>>>>>>>>> So after ios 10 comes out, the apps you are using might still > >>>>>>>>>> support > >>>>>>>>>> ios 9 at first, but after a while they will probably drop that > >>>>>>>>>> support. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> You could always run the version you had currently on your iPod, > >>>>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>>>> there is no guarantee that you will always be able to update to the > >>>>>>>>>> most recent version of the app, especially since the iPod 5 will > >>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>> be supported by ios 10. > >>>>>>>>>> So if having the most recent version of the app is important to > >>>>>>>>>> you, > >>>>>>>>>> then you should maybe wait, continue to save until you could get > >>>>>>>>>> an iPod 6. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Chris > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Terri Stimmel > >>>>>>>>>>> <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone who has contacted me, regarding my iPod touch > >>>>>>>>>>> questions. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I really appreciate it. I know I should probably buy the latest > >>>>>>>>>>> iPod. But the money just isn't there right now. Plus I don't need > >>>>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>> to do everything. > >>>>>>>>>>> I also realize that I could put stuff on my phone, and listen to > >>>>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>> that way. But I honestly don't have a lot of space left on my > >>>>>>>>>>> phone. > >>>>>>>>>>> It is a 16 gig model and I think it have about five gigs of space > >>>>>>>>>>> left. I know I could put it on disturb also. > >>>>>>>>>>> However, I don't really want to do that, because I get some > >>>>>>>>>>> important texts and calls during the day. So I wouldn't want to > >>>>>>>>>>> miss > >>>>>>>>>>> those, because the Phone was on do not disturb. So this is why I > >>>>>>>>>>> have decided to go with this generation iPod. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Long as I am able to do what I want with it, and that is fine with > >>>>>>>>>>> me. Now here is my question. If my application such as, Spotify, > >>>>>>>>>>> tuna in, 50 radio Pro, and maybe a couple others I can't think of > >>>>>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>>>>> the moment, I have updates, when I likely still be able to get > >>>>>>>>>>> these > >>>>>>>>>>> updates? That is my biggest concern! I would really appreciated if > >>>>>>>>>>> anyone could answer that for me. I don't mind if I cannot upgrade > >>>>>>>>>>> past nine. I don't see why that would matter to me, unless it got > >>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> a point where I could not do my update for my application. Then > >>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>> would definitely be a problem. Thank you for all the help so far. > >>>>>>>>>>> It > >>>>>>>>>>> really does mean a lot to me. Sorry this message is a little > >>>>>>>>>>> sloppy. > >>>>>>>>>>> I am using dictation. I have never learned how to correct my > >>>>>>>>>>> mistakes, when using dictation. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day! > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> TerriSent from my iPhone > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel > >>>>>>>>>>>> <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terri, > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> As Christopher already said, the only iPod that can run iOS 10 > >>>>>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>>>> be the sixth generation, the fifth generation stops at iOS 9. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Probably not a big concern for now if all you want to do is run > >>>>>>>>>>>> Spotify, listen to Audio books and so on. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Personally I think it's a waste of money, if you don't want > >>>>>>>>>>>> notifications while you listen to a book or music just bring up > >>>>>>>>>>>> SIRI and say "Turn on Do Not Disturb". > >>>>>>>>>>>> As far as getting stuff onto the iPod Touch it is identical to > >>>>>>>>>>>> an iPhone. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you can use Dropbox or any number of other cloud services to > >>>>>>>>>>>> access stuff inside their apps, but if you want the music app > >>>>>>>>>>>> then > >>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes is the only way and if you avoid iTunes with your iPhone > >>>>>>>>>>>> then you will also avoid it with the iPod Touch. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I started out with an iPod Touch in 2009 and then got the iPhone > >>>>>>>>>>>> 4 > >>>>>>>>>>>> in 2010. A month or two after I got the iPhone I sold my iPod > >>>>>>>>>>>> Touch > >>>>>>>>>>>> because it was just sitting in the drawer. The same happened > >>>>>>>>>>>> when I bought my 6S. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I kept my 5S at the time and thought maybe I use it at home for > >>>>>>>>>>>> Audible and stuff like that, but I just never did because I > >>>>>>>>>>>> prefer > >>>>>>>>>>>> to use one device instead of two which essentially do the same > >>>>>>>>>>>> thing. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sieghard > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > >>>>>>>>>>>> On > >>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of christopher hallsworth > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 9:37 AM > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Correct. iPhone 5 and later, iPad 4, iPad Mini 2 and later, iPad > >>>>>>>>>>>> Pro both > >>>>>>>>>>>> 12 and 9.7-inch and iPod Touch 6th Generation will all run iOS > >>>>>>>>>>>> 10. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jul 2016, at 16:01, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's my understanding some of the older devices will be able to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> run Ios 10. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 7:34 PM > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Questions regarding the IPod > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Terry, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> according to Amazon.com the new 32 gig iPod Touch 6th gen is > >>>>>>>>>>>>> selling for $242. There are used models listing for as little > >>>>>>>>>>>>> as $174. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Using some sort of cloud backup such as Dropbox to transfer > >>>>>>>>>>>>> files > >>>>>>>>>>>>> in and out of your iPod will be very slow as you will have to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> upload the large files to Dropbox then download them into your > >>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod Touch. Learning to use iTunes will make this process much, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> much faster--when iTunes becomes more user friendly. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You should really, really try to get the newer 6th generation > >>>>>>>>>>>>> because if you buy the older 5th gen it will be of little use to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> you going forward since it will no longer be upgradeable to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> newer > >>>>>>>>>>>>> versions of iOS--you'll be stuck with iOS 9 the remainder of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> time you own this device--you will regret it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the Amazon.com link: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Amazon.com: Apple iPod touch 32GB Blue (6th Generation): > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Electronics - https://is.gd/XjWxoW > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> JR > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:00 PM > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions regarding the IPod > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Richard, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for your advice. I really appreciate it. I > >>>>>>>>>>>>> would > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wait and save up money to get the six generation model, but it > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hard for me to save up money. So that is why I am taking what I > >>>>>>>>>>>>> can get. Maybe there is not the greatest idea. But I know if I > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wait for a while, the prices for the sixth generation will > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully go down. So by then, maybe I will be able to afford > >>>>>>>>>>>>> one. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But for now, I don't really want to wait on that. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> In all honestly, I don't put anything on my iPhone right now. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's > >>>>>>>>>>>>> only a 16 gig model, so it cannot hold much. I do read some > >>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff > >>>>>>>>>>>>> through to noon, and I listen to stuff through Spotify. That was > >>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be tuning in. Also, I do have voice reader on my > >>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, as well as dropbox. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But I use dropbox more. I do plan to put all these programs on > >>>>>>>>>>>>> my > >>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod, once I get it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But the books, and the movies I would be putting onto the iPod, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> are currently on my hard drive. So maybe I could put them into > >>>>>>>>>>>>> dropbox and look at them that way on the iPhone? I don't know.. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>>>>> would do anything not to have to use iTunes. Right now for my > >>>>>>>>>>>>> phone I have it sync on Wi-Fi. Maybe that is not the best idea? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But I will admit, I do not know how to take things off my phone, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> or really put them on there. I've never done it. Thank you again > >>>>>>>>>>>>> for your help. If you have any more advice, or suggestions, I > >>>>>>>>>>>>> would really appreciate that. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a good night! > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Terri > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Richard Turner > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You get things on and off the iPod the same way you do with the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can choose in iTunes to not have anything automatically > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sync > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the iPod. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes will show that you have two devices and you can select > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> one you have plugged in and only put certain things on it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You do not have to enable mail on the touch. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would strongly recommend, however, that you consider saving > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> up > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the iPod Touch 6th generation. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how much longer Apple will support the 5th > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> generation and as one who has owned both, the 6 is worth it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For your mp3 books, are you using Voice Dream Reader or just > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> treating them as books through iTunes? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Audio described movies will show up in the video app if you are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> transferring them with iTunes. Or, are these just mp3 files > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blind Mice or somewhere? If just mp3 files, again, Voice Dream > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reader would handle them fine and you can get them on your > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> device > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> through DropBox rather than going through the pains of iTunes. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I too have an iPhone and an iPod for similar reasons. I wanted > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have a device dedicated to listening to music and reading > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> books. I find I do other things with it, but those are the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> main two things. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 1:25 PM > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Questions regarding the IPod > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everybody, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am considering purchasing an IPod Touch, 5th generation. I do > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not want the latest one, because I feel I just can't afford it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But also, I don't think I need all those features. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So here are some questions I have. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do I have to activate male on the IPod. I receive my mail on my > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, and I really do not want it in both places. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I have a lot of audio described movies, is there a way to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> add these to the IPod? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, how would I do this? Would they go in to a certain > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I have a lot of audiobooks in MP3 format. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would they have to go in to a certain folder as well? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess my main question is, can any MP3 file be put on the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IPod? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once I add something, is it easy to remove? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, how do I keep photos off the IPod? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, I want these to stay on my phone. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> My reason for wanting to purchase an IPod, is so I can listen > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff without interruptions.. For instance, I have a Spotify > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> account. I want to put the app on my IPod, and listen to the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> music from my Bluetooth speaker. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, when I listen with my phone, even though I mute the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone, some notices still come through. Even with the screen > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> locked. So I am tired of this, and do not want it anymore. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help with all this will be much appreciated. I may have > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions to come. Especially when it comes to ITunes. 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