We might see if Christopher Toth might write something like q-tunes to go with his other q products (q-read, q-feed, q-cast).
. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 8:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: latest itunes I just wished a third party Software developer would come out with a itunes replacement that would be fully accessible! From: Gordan Radić Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: latest itunes Hi! I'm going o answer to the original post here since I've lost the topic thread. I agree Freedom Scientific, GW Micro and NV Access are responsible for how will their respective products will interact with different kindsof software on Windows compatible PCs. However, I don't agree they are completely responsible. Software developers have the means and ability to make their apps more simple, more accessible and more hookable to some standards so the screen readers can use the most of the app interface with no further adjusting, making scripts, set files or external modules. iTunes, as an app in question, is way complicated and graphically furnished than it should be for its purpose. Long story short, iTunes is just a player with ability to synchronize with iDevices, nothing more nothing less and it could be much, much simpler than it is. Regarding its design, basically it has left side with some kind of tree view with various categories and the right side with options, settings and controls for selected category. Tis can easily look like Winamp Preferences dialog or Jaws Settings Center, both accessible and usable to the core. OK, now someone will tell Winamp needs some Jaws scripting which is true and it is obvious Jaws Settings Center has to be accessible but similar dialogs found in other apps are not screen reader supported and still are accessible. Right now I can think of Settings dialog of Utorrent, Free Download Manager and there are tones of apps with this kind of interface. If the app is designed in some standards screen reader will have a better chance to interact with it and Apple is the first who should know it. S poštovanjem Gordan Radić <http://www.nemoviz.org> <http://www.facebook.com/nemoviz> <http://www.twitter.com/nemoviz2014> 1.9.2016. u 4:30, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la: I tend to agree with you myself, but others have pointed out on this list that the accessibility of App Store apps is the responsibility of the app developers. Apple publishes the accessibility specifications, so it's up to the app developer to follow those specifications. The same reasoning would apply to a developer writing an application for Windows, where there's also plenty of information on how to make your application accessible. This is also one of the reasons why I still like the third party screen reader developer option. It means there's one more interested party out there worrying about whether I can access an application or not. How much of a priority can it be for a company to make their application accessible on a competitors platform or have their screen reader jump through hoops to make a competitors application accessible? On 30/08/16 23:19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Well, while it may not all be up to Freedom Scientific or VFO or whatever they are called now, it is both the responsibility of Apple and the screenreader makers. I sure hope that VFO is having talks with Apple about iTunes accessibility since only they can tell Apple what Apple needs to do so that they can do what they must do. Apple used to point out that iTtunes worked best with Window Eyes, but I think for a while before Windo Eyes became part of VFO Jaws was actually working at least as good or better and now that both screenreaders are under the same hat so to speak I really hope Apple and VFO get their wires crossed in a way that is going to result in an improvement to accessibility and not a reduction. Regards, Sieghard *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin *Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:54 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* latest itunes Hi. Has anyone gotten the latest itunes to function with jaws? I talked to apple accessibility and their take is that since we’re using jaws, it’s their problem. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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