Shawn, You stat3ed that it is my opinion of the beta. Not so. It is simple fact. Beta is simply nothing. I never bother them knowing new versions will always have bugs. If you, Shawn, think more, you will understand why I said so. I am not alone. Rich is one of them!
Shawn, please relax. You sound as if you were blunting at me saying it is my opinion. I was simply explaining to the folks here. Just simmer down. Thanks. Todd -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 9:02 AM To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers Hi. Best to let the moderators deal with the offenders of the NDA because they're also offending the rules of this list. So let Mark or Cara handle it. Todd, that's your opinion about the betas, but I have hope that Apple will address some of our issues. Not right away but when they can. As for using a beta on a primary or secondary device, I only have an iPhone so I use beta software on it. Same with my Mac and Sierra. If I had the money, maybe I'd use a secondary device, but for now I don't mind the bugs to not use beta software on my primary devices. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > On Nov 8, 2016, at 6:58 AM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Sent from an iPad Air > Hi, if you read my message carefully enough, though, I did write, best to say > nothing. But should you unintentionally say something, they won't personally > hunt you down for 1 accident, and charge you. >> On 8 Nov 2016, at 12:52 pm, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> You may be right, but if you read the NDA, you see that you can discuss any >> information Apple has already made public ally available. Also, just because >> someone else violates their NDA doesn't make it OK for someone else too. >> Again, each person needs to decide for themselves what they're comfortable >> with after looking at the NDA and agreeing to it. Even if I knew Apple >> wasn't going to take any action if I violated the NDA, I'd still be cautious >> about going against something I agreed to. >> >>> On 08/11/16 01:31, rajmund wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Best to say nothing, but considering youtube has a what's new in >>> 10.2 video, I can't see much would happen. >>> >>> Sent from a BrailleNote >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Date sent: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 22:41:49 -0600 >>> Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers >>> >>> I don't know if the NDA is a big deal as far as Apple is concerned >>> or how much trouble you could get into from Apple, but I do know >>> Apple says the following at >>> https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/legal >>> >>> 5. Definition of Confidential Information. You agree that the >>> Pre-Release Software and any information concerning the Pre-Release >>> Software (including its nature and existence, features, >>> functionality, and screen shots), the Seeding Tools, and any other >>> information disclosed by Apple to you in connection with the Beta >>> Program will be considered and referred to in this Agreement as >>> "Confidential Information." >>> >>> 6. Nonuse and Nondisclosure of Confidential Information. Except as >>> expressly permitted in this Section 6, you agree that you will not >>> disclose, publish, or otherwise disseminate any Confidential >>> Information to anyone other than individuals who are enrolled in the >>> same individual seed as you, or as otherwise expressly permitted or >>> agreed to in writing by Apple. 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