Yes, searching for apps is problematic because of this and this definitely does need work. If you know what you're looking for, usually you get the app you want, but if you're searching for a fairly broad term, scrolling is a real challenge, for sure. That one definitely needs resolution urgently.
Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 1:21 p.m. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over As has been said, I think since it is a web content thing, that even if it is a huge deal for someone that it is not as big of a deal as something built in. Also, from reading the description of the store issue that was talked about, it is actually exactly the same issue as you can have right now when you open up the manual on your device and if you don't clikc the link that says is better for voiceover and use the page that comes up without doing that, then when you try to navigate using VO gestures you run into much the same issue as was described. Voiceover is not able to scroll the screen with content programmed that way as it should. It also sounds to me like if in the situation that one app is being displayed per page and if voiceover will swipe through and tell you what they are, then you could count how many you have to go over from where you are adn then turn off voiceover and swipe left that number of times. Then turn voiceover back on and you should be in the right place. If the app store is the worst issue I am not concerned. Jim On 9/16/12, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Also, you guys need to realize the changes to the store aren't going > to be completely rolled out until iOS 6 launches on Wednesday, so for > those that can vouch for what Jonathon said, me being one of them, > there's a chance we won't see improvements until the store changes are completely rolled out. > Even if there are none, I'm sure it's something easily fixable since > the changes to the stores don't' require a new version of iOS itself. > Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:52 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over > > OK, this is my personal experience. The sky isn't falling in, and the > App Store isn't inaccessible. I update apps in iOS6 daily. I think it > is true to say that the information conveyed by VoiceOver could be > more helpful. > > First, the behaviour of the App Store has changed. As has already been > said in this thread, you no longer need to enter your password when you update. > You do, however, contrary to some speculation in blogs a while ago, > still have to enter your password when you install a free app. > > When you update an app, you are no longer taken out of the App Store > and placed on the page the app is installed on. Instead, you simply > stay in the App Store, right where you are. When you double tap the > update button, I can see nothing that gives you confirmation that the > app update has begun downloading. However, if you go to your home > screen right away, you will be able to see that it in fact has, > because you can see the percentage of the download and install > changing. > > So in no way do I think this should be seen as a reason not to update. > yes, it would be nice if the update button changed to an updating, or > downloading, button after it is pressed, but it isn't inaccessible at all. > > Jonathan > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos > Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 12:44 p.m. > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over > > Hello Jonathan, since many things have already been said and > speculated on, I would say that if you have information which helps to > clear things up, go right ahead. I'll let you be the judge of how much you can say. > > Hopefully people will read this thread in its entirety before commenting. > > Lastly, to everyone, I still recommend you read all about the new > changes before you upgrade. The reason is because once you do, you > can't go back, and if you really don't like something, then you will > be forced to deal with it sooner than later. As it is, you will have > to move forward at some point, but maybe by not jumping the gun so > quickly, you won't be as surprised. > > Cheers. > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > There's a problem in the cockpit. The cockpit, what is it? It's the > little room in the front where the pilot sits but that's not important right now. > - > Airplane Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com > Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 > > On 9/16/2012 6:58 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >> I'd very much like to comment on this thread, but I would like >> clarification on whether the moderators are happy for the thread to >> continue given that those of us using iOS6 are still supposed to be >> under > NDA. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of James Mannion >> Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 10:22 a.m. >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Cc: kliph...@gmail.com >> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over >> >> Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality in >> updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility issues or >> reliability issues? >> >> Thanks, >> Jim >> >> On 9/16/12, Kliphton <kliph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier, >>> especially in iMessage. There are some new features in mail, and we >>> even have a do not disturb feature. That's all for now, let's wait >>> for > Wednesday. >>> On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra <sen...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does anybody >>>> know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious. 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