Richard,

Now that is a pretty handy app and for a $1 I would get a lot of good 
information for so little. :) I might just have to grab that. :)

THanks
Scott

On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Richard Turner <richard.turne...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Scott, Amy and others,
> If you want a quick, easy way to look up braille codes you can't remember, 
> there is an app, made by someone I know, called Braille Reference, and is 
> $0.99 in the app store.
> Under the computer braille section, if you select to search by name, it will 
> show you an alphabetical list of contractions.  The At sign is the fourth one 
> in the list.  He says "dots 7 and 4," which is correct.  However, you can get 
> this if you are using contracted braille by doing space bar plus u for upper 
> case and then just a dot 4.
>  
> He plans an update with visual images for the braille cells in the near 
> future and there are a couple of search things he needs to clean up, but it 
> is a handy tool for a lot of my braille students.
>  
> HTH,
> Richard
>  
>  
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Scott Howell
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Small braille keyboard/displays for iPhone
> 
> David,
> 
> Do you tend to use contracted more than uncontracted Braille? Also I think 
> I'm going to get one of those booklets that will help me remember how to make 
> an "at" @ symbol etc.  I never used computer Braille. In fact until a year 
> ago  or so I had not used Braille since I was in school which was a good 
> while ago. :)
> I'm really looking to use my RefreshaBraille for more than just reading. :)
> 
> On Sep 16, 2012, at 3:42 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> All braille displays work similarly with the iPhone. It is the iOS software 
>> which controls everything. The braille display is for viewing and the 
>> keyboard is for typing. Controls are more basic than with a braille note 
>> taker.
>> 
>> I would be cautious about getting the HumanWare or vario displays. 
>> Connections can be more problematic do to the nature of the bluetooth driver 
>> stacks and controls in the HumanWare products.
>> 
>> I have an Alva BC640 and a RefreshaBraille. Both work well with my iPhone.
>> 
>> That said, I prefer the Refreshabraille because I can turn it on and off 
>> whilst my iPhone is unlocked and it connects and disconnects without 
>> difficulties. My Alva, on the other hand, requires that I lock my iPhone 
>> before I turn the Alva on. After the display is on, I unlock my iPhone and 
>> the Alva automatically connects. However, when I write in 8 dot computer 
>> braille, the Alva is easier because all 8 dots are in a row (40 cells gives 
>> more room for the keyboard). On the Refreshabraille, dots 7 and 8 are next 
>> to the spacebar, so harder to press dot 7 for capitalisation.
>> 
>> National Braille Press, NBP, in the US has a braille brochure with the 
>> computer braille code. They also use to sell a book training on computer 
>> braille. In computer braille, the letters are the same, numbers are dropped 
>> to the lower part of the 6 dot cell (1 is dot 2, 2 is dots 2 3, 3 is dots 2 
>> 5, Etc.), and there are unique symbols for each punctuation mark. Upper-case 
>> letters are the same as lower-case letters with dot 7 added. I write 
>> computer braille at the same speed that I write contracted braille.
>> 
>> For large files, I find my iPhone 4 does better in 8 dot mode rather than 
>> contracted braille mode. Also, in contracted braille mode, iOS has a half 
>> second buffer. If you stop writing for half a second, whatever is in the 
>> buffer is translated and written to the field. Braille entry works whenever 
>> the keyboard is activated. Also, almost everything VO speaks is 
>> simultaneously displayed in braille. I regularly take notes in braille 
>> during meetings with speech muted.
>> 
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 17/09/2012, at 7:05, Amy Harris <aharr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sharonda, thanks for the clarification, and thanks for the Essys 14 Kawal.  
>>> I knew that if I asked here I could get REAL help.  You know, useful help. 
>>> *GRIN*
>>>  
>>> I know that some braille displays are notetakers in and of themselves.  
>>> That's not really what I need.  I need something more along the lines of 
>>> being able to turn off VoiceOver on my iDevice yet still use it through 
>>> braille while in a meeting.  Does that eliminate any of these devices?  I'd 
>>> also love a display that worked with iPhone apps like Pages, Messages, 
>>> Notes, Mail, Reminders, my grocery list app, and so on.  Does such a thing 
>>> even exist, or does it all have to be done through the particular braille 
>>> display's software?
>>>  
>>> Amy
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