The issue of blind folk and touch screens is quite fascinating. I've always had 
trouble with spatial orientation, and if it weren't for the constant audible 
feedback, I'd get losT on a Magic Trackpad for the Mac or the screen on my 
IPOD. That said, I am really beginning to appreciate the spatial plcement, and 
I'm getting much more comfortable with it.

As for Apple's accessibility commitment, I think it's fantastic, but in a 
capitalist economy, it can only go so far, unless charities step in and help, 
or unless Apfle had various foundations for the purpose. I reY wouldn't have 
guessed this level of accessibility would exist a few years back, and frankly, 
this is why I buy Apple products. I support this commitment with my wallet. :)

Teresa

On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You are correct for the Mac. For iOS devices, however, this is not the case. 
> Most of the professional proofs and studies clearly demonstrated that blind 
> peepul, as a whole, did not have the necessary spatial awareness, and 
> attempting to memorise, without good tactile clues, would be almost 
> impossible for most blind people. Therefore, an accessible pure touch-screen 
> device was not expected or required. After all aside from some basic 
> functionality, it couldn't be done anyway. Those poor blind people. 
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> 
> On 18/09/2012, at 9:34, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I agree with David here, but I also wonder how much of Apple's sales are
>> effected by their commitment to accessibility. For example, how many
>> government sales or small business sales or educational sales wouldn't
>> have even been possible if they weren't able to demonstrate that they
>> had an accessible solution and meet the various regulations and laws, at
>> least here in the US? I think this would explode the 100K figure by
>> quite a bit, although I'm not sure it's possible to capture such a
>> number. I also don't mean to take away from Apple's commitment to
>> accessibility. I think their commitment goes beyond just bottom line
>> dollars and cents, although they are a business, and I don't think
>> they're doing it entirely out of the kindness of their corporate hearts.
>> 
>> On 17/09/12 16:05, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> David,
>>> 
>>> True, but my point is that although a small portion of the overall sales, 
>>> APple still considers this segment worth the investment. I would love to 
>>> know what the real numbers are across all Apple products including the 
>>> Macs. 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2012, at 4:19 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Do not consider 100,000 iPhones to blind folk to be much of a market in 
>>>> this case. This number represents 0.3% of 1 quarter year of Apple's iPhone 
>>>> sales, but includes all models of iPhones for the past 3 years. In other 
>>>> words, if Apple were to stop supporting VO, they wouldn't even notice the 
>>>> tiny bump to their profits. Apple is not supporting concepts of universal 
>>>> access for their bottom line. 
>>> 
>> 
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