iOS 6 is pretty much the update. 

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Of beverly
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over

Is it possible that we can skip the IOS 6 and when the update comes out just
install that one?

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From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:38 AM
Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over


> Hi Kawal,
>
> Unfortunately this does appear like it could be so, but one never knows,
> Apple was once in big trouble as well back in the early days and now they
> are the richest corporation in the world. I am not holding my breath
> regarding RIM, but as a Canadian and them being a Canadian company who 
> once
> had the edge on everybody I do wish them well.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
>
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
>
> Who said RIM?  They might be dead from all the gloomy coverage they get.
> On 17 Sep 2012, at 21:09, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> I will add that you can search for apps by going to the Itunes store. The
> search results will have a heading something like "Iphone apps".
>>
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:09 PM, christopher hallsworth
> <christopher...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Go to apps in the sources tree or sources table depending on platform,
> and click the button indicating how many updates are available. Next click
> download all free updates. Supply your credentials when prompted and it 
> will
> update on the computer side. Finally sync your device and your apps will 
> be
> updated on the device as well.
>>> Sent from my mac
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17 Sep 2012, at 19:12, Ron Pelletier <ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I am one who has always gone to the app store from my phone and
>>>> never through ITunes.  Could someone quickly explain the procedure
>>>> to update apps from ITunes and that will make me feel a whole lot
>>>> better about updating to IOS 6.  September 19 is my birthday and I
>>>> would like IOS 6 to be a birthday present and not a pain in the neck.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Ron & Danvers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of John Panarese
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:57 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
>>>>
>>>>   To my knowledge, AppleVis has always been extremely informative
>>>> and reliable.  I am glad that this was mentioned by them.  As
>>>> someone pointed out, the store surely can change by Wednesday, so
>>>> let's hope it will be fixed.  In the mean time, I'll rely on
>>>> AppleVis, as I have been doing for quite some time now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Take Care
>>>>
>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>> Director
>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com Twitter, @macfortheblind
>>>>
>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>>>
>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>
>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:44 PM, "AnonyMouse"
>>>> <anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>
>>>>> We on the AppleVis don't blow smoke. If we have done that in the
>>>>> past I certainly like to hear about it. I certainly like to say
>>>>> that AppleVis has always been a reliable source of information.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the App Store issues this may not be a major issue if you
>>>>> consider turning VO on and off to do certain things. However, this
>>>>> is a pain for most others. The Features and the Charts I don't
>>>>> believe you can just do by turning on and off the VO.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will make this statement on behalf of AppleVis. The App Store is
>>>>> the only major problems we have found. As for the other issues with
>>>>> in the IOS 6 itself is very minor. There are bugs but nothing major
>>>>> at all. I don't believe we have ever said there were major issues
>>>>> but we have said there were other issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I don't like the way people on here would say we at AppleVis are
>>>>> blowing smoke.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> AnonyMouse
>>>>> AppleVis Editorial Team
>>>>> www.AppleVis.com
>>>>> Twitter: www.twitter.com\thomas_domville
>>>>> Zello: =AnonyMouse=
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>>> Behalf Of James Mannion
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:35 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree and I don't know why they said that. It bothers me that
>>>>> they did. If they were going to go as far as they did, they could
>>>>> at leastmention the areas they were referring to. Let's hope they
>>>>> were blowing smoke and the others are right that there are not
>>>>> other major issues. A few have said there are not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/16/12, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The thread on AppleVis implied that there are other problems as well.
>>>>>> However from what I am reading hear it doesn't look that way. If
>>>>>> the only problem that exists is that the app store is hard to use
>>>>>> than unlike others I don't really care since I can do the same
>>>>>> thing using
>>>>> iTunes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Daniel Miller
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:12 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, you guys need to realize the changes to the store aren't
>>>>>> going to be completely rolled out until iOS 6 launches on
>>>>>> Wednesday, so for those that can vouch for what Jonathon said, me
>>>>>> being one of them, there's a chance we won't see improvements
>>>>>> until the store changes are
>>>>> completely rolled out.
>>>>>> Even if there are none, I'm sure it's something easily fixable
>>>>>> since the changes to the stores don't' require a new version of iOS
> itself.
>>>>>> Just my 2 cents, take it or leave it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:52 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, this is my personal experience. The sky isn't falling in, and
>>>>>> the App Store isn't inaccessible. I update apps in iOS6 daily. I
>>>>>> think it is true to say that the information conveyed by VoiceOver
>>>>>> could be more helpful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First, the behaviour of the App Store has changed. As has already
>>>>>> been said in this thread, you no longer need to enter your
>>>>>> password when you
>>>>> update.
>>>>>> You do, however, contrary to some speculation in blogs a while
>>>>>> ago, still have to enter your password when you install a free app.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you update an app, you are no longer taken out of the App
>>>>>> Store and placed on the page the app is installed on. Instead, you
>>>>>> simply stay in the App Store, right where you are. When you double
>>>>>> tap the update button, I can see nothing that gives you
>>>>>> confirmation that the app update has begun downloading. However,
>>>>>> if you go to your home screen right away, you will be able to see
>>>>>> that it in fact has, because you can see the percentage of the
>>>>>> download and install changing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So in no way do I think this should be seen as a reason not to 
>>>>>> update.
>
>>>>>> yes, it would be nice if the update button changed to an updating,
>>>>>> or downloading, button after it is pressed, but it isn't
>>>>>> inaccessible at
>>>> all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 12:44 p.m.
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Jonathan, since many things have already been said and
>>>>>> speculated on, I would say that if you have information which
>>>>>> helps to clear things up, go right ahead. I'll let you be the
>>>>>> judge of how much you
>>>>> can say.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hopefully people will read this thread in its entirety before
> commenting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lastly, to everyone, I still recommend you read all about the new
>>>>>> changes before you upgrade. The reason is because once you do, you
>>>>>> can't go back, and if you really don't like something, then you
>>>>>> will be forced to deal with it sooner than later. As it is, you
>>>>>> will have to move forward at some point, but maybe by not jumping
>>>>>> the gun so quickly, you won't be as surprised.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>>>>> There's a problem in the cockpit. The cockpit, what is it? It's
>>>>>> the little room in the front where the pilot sits but that's not
>>>>>> important
>>>>> right now.
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> Airplane Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
>>>>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Face book:
>>>>>> http://facebook.com/rau47
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/16/2012 6:58 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
>>>>>>> I'd very much like to comment on this thread, but I would like
>>>>>>> clarification on whether the moderators are happy for the thread
>>>>>>> to continue given that those of us using iOS6 are still supposed
>>>>>>> to be under
>>>>>> NDA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of James Mannion
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012 10:22 a.m.
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Cc: kliph...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 6.0 and Voice Over
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, other than the completely rediculously breaking functionality
>>>>>>> in updating apps, are there any other voiceover accessibility
>>>>>>> issues or reliability issues?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/16/12, Kliphton <kliph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I've been using it since thursday, and yes v o is snappier,
>>>>>>>> especially in iMessage.  There are some new features in mail,
>>>>>>>> and we even have a do not disturb feature.  That's all for now,
>>>>>>>> let's wait for
>>>>>> Wednesday.
>>>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Avnish Chopra <sen...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 48 hours left before we download the new IOS 6.0 with vo. Does
> anybody
>>>>>>>>> know what improvements invoice over? I am really curious.   Thank
> you!
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