Hi Mario, To be honest, as a blind user I couldn't care less about Promotion or OLED displays except for the fact that these may result in better battery life in which case I am all for it. Don't get hung up on a feature which will probably benefit you very little if at all. I wish instead of Promotion Apple would have announced this amazing leep forward with SIRI and because of said leep SIRI is now better than Amazon Alexa, Microsoft Cortana and Google Assistant combined and it's going to take all three companies 3 years to catch up... Well, I can dream, can't I? Instead SIRI gets a new voice. Yes, it's a nicer voice, but really? Who cares how SIRI tells you "Sorry, I can't do this" or "I found some results on the web about your request". The lack of SIRI advancement just about offsets all the other things which were announced. The other day I received a text message, actually an iMessage, and I used SIRI saying something like "Reply I just sent you an email, please check it and get back to me". Next thing I know SIRI asked to whom I wanted to send the email to. I said "Reply" at the beginning to trigger a reply to the text message that had just arrived, but because I mentioned "email" in the text of the message stupid SIRI thought I wanted to send an email. Give me a break. A couple of weeks ago I asked SIRI "When is the Calgary Stampede in 2017". For those who don't know, the Calgary Stampede is the biggest rodeo and outdoor show in the world with over 1 Million visitors. SIRI answered by telling me the date of the next "Calgary Stampeders" game, I think that is Calgary's football team. I then opened the Google Search app, said "OK Google" and asked the same question phrased the exact same way and Google replied "According to Global News the Calgary Stampede runs from July 7 to the 16th". When I just tried it again SIRI answered "OK, I found something on the web for When is the Calgary Stampede in 2017, take a look". Anyhow, we all can go on an on about how incredibly stupid SIRI can be when it comes to asking such questions, but apparently Apple doesn't think the smart assistant they invented needs to become smarter or maybe now that SIRI is 6 years old it is incapable of learning anything else so they instead they do some plastic surgery to make her sound younger. Sounds like an aging actress who thinks getting a face lift will revive her once promising career.
Regards, Siegards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mário Navarro Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 2:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5. Thank you sieghard Promotion scrolling, this was my fear with VO. Sieghard, What you think. apple is going to adopt this new technology in the new iPhones? There is much talk in OLED, but instead, we can get the promotion? Or we can have a fusion of OLED with promotion? What do you think of this? Thanks. Cheers. Às 04:03 de 16/06/2017, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu: > Hi Mario, > > Agreed, I doubt it will make much if any difference for a Voiceover user > except that if it indeed results in better battery life we of course also > benefit from that. Here a bit more along the lines of what Daniel already > pointed out in the form of an article from iMore: > > Apple's new adaptive screen refresh technology is going to change how > we look at devices If I had to pick the WWDC announcement that made my week, > it'd have to be Apple's newest display technology, ProMotion. Essentially, it > makes the new iPad Pro feel faster without compromising on battery life. But > simply saying "faster" doesn't do justice to how ProMotion is going to not > only improve the iPad Pro experience — or the experience of Apple's other > computing platforms in the future. > Here's everything you ever wanted to know about ProMotion — and then > some. (Because I can't help but geek out about display technology.) > > Apple describes it as such: > A new [display] technology that delivers refresh rates of up to 120Hz for > fluid scrolling, greater responsiveness and smoother motion content. With > ProMotion, Apple Pencil is even more responsive with an industry-best, > 20-millisecond latency for even more fluid and natural drawing. ProMotion > also improves display quality and reduces power consumption by automatically > adjusting the display refresh rate to match the movement of the content. > > In English: ProMotion makes your scrolling look smoother, text crisper, and > drawing virtually lag-free. And it does it all while saving battery life and > keeping your video from looking like a bad HDTV set. > > Is ProMotion hardware or software? > It's a hardware component of Apple's new iPad Pro displays, though APIs in > iOS help make it adaptive. > > If you want to read more, check out the rest of the imore article: > https://www.imore.com/promotion > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Mário Navarro > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 7:10 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5. > > > > hi Daniel. > > Oh, okay. Thank you for that. > cheers. > > > Às 23:02 de 15/06/2017, Daniel Miller escreveu: >> Hi. No, ProMotion is a strictly visual adjustment. It will not affect >> voiceover users in the slightest. There's no need to even worry about it. >> All the technology does this tell the iPad went to refresh the screen based >> on what you're doing with it. It's mainly meant for the pencil, and video >> content. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Mário Navarro <mario....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> And I had forgotten the most important and what the world demands. >>> The battery power. >>> >>> I'm sick of having to charge the battery of the normal iPhone screens to >>> or 3 times a day... >>> And I don't have to spend more money on an iPhone plus just to have more >>> battery power... >>> cheers. >>> >>> >>> Às 19:17 de 15/06/2017, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu: >>>> Promotion is an iOS 11 feature and while I assume Apple will figure out >>>> how to make this accessible as much as it can be made accessible, we won't >>>> know how useful it is for visually impaired users until iOS 11 is out of >>>> the bag. Once the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June >>>> or beginning of July you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS >>>> 11 public beta and try it out. I believe you have 30 days to return the >>>> iPad if you don't like it. >>>> Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sieghard >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Greg Wocher >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5. >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no >>>> the iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to >>>> big. It is a technical limitation of the technology. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Greg Wocher >>>> d >>>>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro <mario....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two >>>>> things. >>>>> >>>>> 1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad >>>>> screen? >>>>> 2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature? >>>>> I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I >>>>> read is that this new screen does not support 3D force touch. >>>>> Will this change with the coming of IOS 11? >>>>> Please, what are your thoughts. >>>>> thanks. >>>>> cheers. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached >>>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu. 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Once the public beta for iOS 11 is available at the end of June >>>> or beginning of July you could always buy the iPad then, install the iOS >>>> 11 public beta and try it out. I believe you have 30 days to return the >>>> iPad if you don't like it. >>>> Just out of curiocity, what is it that makes you want to buy an iPad? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sieghard >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Greg Wocher >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:51 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Doubts with the new iPad pro 10.5. >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> I am not sure about your first question. As for the second question, no >>>> the iPad will not support 3d Touch. The reason is tat the screen is to >>>> big. It is a technical limitation of the technology. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Greg Wocher >>>> d >>>>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Mário Navarro <mario....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I'm thinking of buying the new iPad pro 10.5, but I'm in doubt with two >>>>> things. >>>>> >>>>> 1. Is voice over compatible with the new ProMotion technology of the iPad >>>>> screen? >>>>> 2. Does this new screen support the new 3D force touch feature? >>>>> I did a google search about this feature in this new iPad, and what I >>>>> read is that this new screen does not support 3D force touch. >>>>> Will this change with the coming of IOS 11? >>>>> Please, what are your thoughts. >>>>> thanks. >>>>> cheers. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached >>>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu. 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