>From what I hear, precious little to precious none!! and the price makes it 
>even more unattractive!
Who wants to keep up with the well-heeled Jones' anyway?

         Jewel


From: Cris Ali 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 
10?


I love the short text channel on Seeing AI.  I almost stopped using KNFB reader 
entirely because of that.  I used to use KNFB reader mostly to identify the 
pieces of mail I get, but now I use seeing AI instead.

Cheers,

Cris 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 
10?

 

I think OCR results also depend on who is doing the scanning since there are 
people on this list who say they can’t for the life of them even get anything 
good with KNFB Reader.

If the print is good I get near 100% accuracy both with KNFB Reader and the 
document scanning channel in Seeing AI.

The short text channel of that app is almost miraculous in it’s speed and 
accuracy.

A better camera may make a difference in how good of a result you get in 
difficult lighting or if your hand is a bit shaky, but when it comes down to it 
then under good lighting conditions somebody with a steady hand and with a good 
ability to hold the phone straight and at the right distance to the page would 
probably get a better result with an iPhone 5S than somebody who wasn’t able to 
do a good job with an iPhone X.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 
10?

 

I say this because I have been using OCR apps, including text detective, text 
grabber prizmo, KNFB reader and others since iPhone 4S and have not seen a huge 
OCR improvements.  In other words the OCR improvements do not match the huge 
changes in the photo quality across the various releases of the iPhone.  Of 
course the improvements in stability and speed of recognition are noticeable 
between 4S and five, 5 and 5S, 6 and 6S etc.…  but the speed and stability are 
functions of memory and processor>  I would imagine that the great improvements 
in Cameras would be reflected in much more accurate OCR results. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 
10?

 

Why do you say developers of OCR apps have not taken full advantage of the 
camera capabilities of the 6S and 7? Just curious how you know this? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 10?

 

May be it is too early to tell because none of us has seen iPhone ten yet.  But 
I listened to the Apple description of the hardware carefully and I could not 
find in it anything for me as a blind user which does not already exist in 
iPhone seven or the forth coming iPhone eight.  How many pixels on the retina 
display is of no interest to me since I have the curtains always turned on.  I 
am not sure how much advantages could the developers of OCR apps can find in 
iPhone ten’s camera to perfect their products,  As is the Cameras in the 
existing iPhone six S and Seven are great, and the developers of OCR apps have 
not taken full advantages of them yet.

Very curious to know if You folks have reached similar tentative impressions to 
mine.

Regards,

Cris

 

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