Yes, but what if you’re one of the Joneses? Apple’s basically got eight different models with different storage sizes to choose from now.
Something for everyone. I’m more inclined to stick with a finger print model for at least one more year and probably by next year the face ID thing will be more refined. Think of the countless times you unlock your phone in a day and how convenient it is to have it already open to the home screen by the time you pull it out of your pocket or whatever. Where as now, for every time, you have to have the screen somehow interact with your mug. Even if it’s not a straight on angle, still. This alone seems like one of those things where the aggregate may get on your nerves. It’ll likely be a moot point in the future soon enough, but for now, I’m still good with the fingerprint. The extra security is fine, but at one point does overkill come into play? I mean one in a million instead of one in fifty thousand is of course great, but I’ve already got touch ID enabled on my phone with the screen brightness set to zero, find my iPhone enabled, different passwords for different services, etc. All I’d need now is to slap a chastity belt on it. I’m still quite happy with my trusty SE, but if I upgrade, it’ll most likely be for the 8 or maybe the 8 Plus. Still using a 5S for my second business cell and plan on using that bad boy until the wheels fall off or until the SE or iPhone 6 models get into the $150 range or so. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jewel Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 7:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 10? >From what I hear, precious little to precious none!! and the price makes it >even more unattractive! Who wants to keep up with the well-heeled Jones' anyway? Jewel From: Cris Ali <mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 10? I love the short text channel on Seeing AI. I almost stopped using KNFB reader entirely because of that. I used to use KNFB reader mostly to identify the pieces of mail I get, but now I use seeing AI instead. Cheers, Cris From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 10? I think OCR results also depend on who is doing the scanning since there are people on this list who say they can’t for the life of them even get anything good with KNFB Reader. If the print is good I get near 100% accuracy both with KNFB Reader and the document scanning channel in Seeing AI. The short text channel of that app is almost miraculous in it’s speed and accuracy. A better camera may make a difference in how good of a result you get in difficult lighting or if your hand is a bit shaky, but when it comes down to it then under good lighting conditions somebody with a steady hand and with a good ability to hold the phone straight and at the right distance to the page would probably get a better result with an iPhone 5S than somebody who wasn’t able to do a good job with an iPhone X. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 10? I say this because I have been using OCR apps, including text detective, text grabber prizmo, KNFB reader and others since iPhone 4S and have not seen a huge OCR improvements. In other words the OCR improvements do not match the huge changes in the photo quality across the various releases of the iPhone. Of course the improvements in stability and speed of recognition are noticeable between 4S and five, 5 and 5S, 6 and 6S etc.… but the speed and stability are functions of memory and processor> I would imagine that the great improvements in Cameras would be reflected in much more accurate OCR results. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 2:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 10? Why do you say developers of OCR apps have not taken full advantage of the camera capabilities of the 6S and 7? Just curious how you know this? From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 10? May be it is too early to tell because none of us has seen iPhone ten yet. But I listened to the Apple description of the hardware carefully and I could not find in it anything for me as a blind user which does not already exist in iPhone seven or the forth coming iPhone eight. How many pixels on the retina display is of no interest to me since I have the curtains always turned on. I am not sure how much advantages could the developers of OCR apps can find in iPhone ten’s camera to perfect their products, As is the Cameras in the existing iPhone six S and Seven are great, and the developers of OCR apps have not taken full advantages of them yet. Very curious to know if You folks have reached similar tentative impressions to mine. Regards, Cris -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . 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