that’s what I am looking for.
From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 23:52
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10?
The carriers may offer discounts as an incentive to switch.
Andy
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From: Mary Otten
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in
iPhone 10?
The price isn't going to go down very much this year. Unlike what happens
with android phones, where you see all kinds of discounts and deals and two for
one at Cetera, don't look for any big deals on the iPhone ex. Besides, as a
blind person, it makes zero sense to buy this phone. You get nothing that you
can't get in the iPhone 8 Plus.
Mary
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that price will come down over time if the market is anything to go on.
From: Jewel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 22:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in
iPhone 10?
From what I hear, precious little to precious none!! and the price makes it
even more unattractive!
Who wants to keep up with the well-heeled Jones' anyway?
Jewel
From: Cris Ali
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in
iPhone 10?
I love the short text channel on Seeing AI. I almost stopped using KNFB
reader entirely because of that. I used to use KNFB reader mostly to identify
the pieces of mail I get, but now I use seeing AI instead.
Cheers,
Cris
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in
iPhone 10?
I think OCR results also depend on who is doing the scanning since there
are people on this list who say they can’t for the life of them even get
anything good with KNFB Reader.
If the print is good I get near 100% accuracy both with KNFB Reader and the
document scanning channel in Seeing AI.
The short text channel of that app is almost miraculous in it’s speed and
accuracy.
A better camera may make a difference in how good of a result you get in
difficult lighting or if your hand is a bit shaky, but when it comes down to it
then under good lighting conditions somebody with a steady hand and with a good
ability to hold the phone straight and at the right distance to the page would
probably get a better result with an iPhone 5S than somebody who wasn’t able to
do a good job with an iPhone X.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in
iPhone 10?
I say this because I have been using OCR apps, including text detective,
text grabber prizmo, KNFB reader and others since iPhone 4S and have not seen a
huge OCR improvements. In other words the OCR improvements do not match the
huge changes in the photo quality across the various releases of the iPhone.
Of course the improvements in stability and speed of recognition are noticeable
between 4S and five, 5 and 5S, 6 and 6S etc.… but the speed and stability are
functions of memory and processor> I would imagine that the great improvements
in Cameras would be reflected in much more accurate OCR results.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in
iPhone 10?
Why do you say developers of OCR apps have not taken full advantage of the
camera capabilities of the 6S and 7? Just curious how you know this?
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone
10?
May be it is too early to tell because none of us has seen iPhone ten yet.
But I listened to the Apple description of the hardware carefully and I could
not find in it anything for me as a blind user which does not already exist in
iPhone seven or the forth coming iPhone eight. How many pixels on the retina
display is of no interest to me since I have the curtains always turned on. I
am not sure how much advantages could the developers of OCR apps can find in
iPhone ten’s camera to perfect their products, As is the Cameras in the
existing iPhone six S and Seven are great, and the developers of OCR apps have
not taken full advantages of them yet.
Very curious to know if You folks have reached similar tentative
impressions to mine.
Regards,
Cris
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