Hi Maria.  Is it possible that my phone announces your name and not  
the.big.apple.n...@gmail.com  which is your email ID. 
  

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> On Sep 14, 2017, at 4:31 PM, the.big.apple.n...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I’m pretty sure. If it doesn’t work you could disable the attention aware 
> feature and it should just recognize your face
> 
> Maria Reyes
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> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:28 PM -0400, "Lelia" <leliastr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Just wondering if face ID would work for people with fake eyes hahaa.  Not 
>> that I’m intending to get that iPhone. 
>>  
>> Lelia
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of the.big.apple.n...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why
>>  
>> For those who were wondering if Face ID would work with sunglasses there is 
>> an article from MacDaily news out saying Face ID works with most sunglasses.
>>  
>> Maria Reyes
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>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:45 AM -0400, "Alan Paganelli" 
>> <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>>  I have the iPhone seven with the largest capacity available. I think I'll 
>> wait for several years before I go for a new phone.   
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> Alan
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone 5s
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds like somebody who wants to be heard, from all I have seen so far 
>> Apple has really nailed this and I assume it will be much more intuitive and 
>> easy to use as this person makes it out to be. As he said, he hasn’t tried 
>> it yet and therefore it’s all just speculation. Apparently what Samsung has 
>> done so far is a bit of a joke since it’s possible to fool their phones to 
>> unlock when you show them a picture of a person.
>> Apple said during their keynote that with Touch Id there was a 1 in 50,000 
>> chance somebody else could  unlock yourphone with their finger print, with 
>> Face Id they say the chance somebody elses face will unlock your phone is 1 
>> in a Million unless it’s an identical twin.
>> Where I do see it as more cumbersome is for blind people, I have a Roots 
>> leather belt holster which when the phone is in it upside down as it has to 
>> be because the headphone jack is on the bottom there is just a 1 inch wide 
>> strap with magnetic closure over the phone and if you lift this up about the 
>> third bottom part of the screen is exposed. This means I can unlock my 6S 
>> Plus with Touch Id while I have it in my belt holster and I can open an app 
>> in the dock or on the bottom two rows of the home screen and so on. Also, 
>> sometimes in the winter I might unlock my phone in the pocket of my coat for 
>> some easy operations and this of course won’t be possible any more unless I 
>> enter my passcode which is a lot more difficult to do with one hand when I 
>> am walking and have the phone in my pocket.
>> OK so I guess it’s all a mute point for me personally since I am not 
>> planning to buy an iPhone X nor for that matter an iPhone 8 or 8 Plus, just 
>> had too many other large expenses this year like getting the roof on my 
>> house done, we bought a new sofa/love seat/recliner chair set for our living 
>> room and a few new expensive woodworking tools somehow ended up in my shop, 
>> too. If I were still on an iPhone 6 or even a 5S it would be different, but 
>> my wife has a 6S and I have the 6S Plus, both phones are in great shape and 
>> work flawlessly, battery is still good and so we’ll wait until next fall to 
>> upgrade. I would be surprised if Apple wouldn’t push Face Id and make it a 
>> feature on all of their phones and maybe even iPads next year although now 
>> that they have the “normal” 8 and 8 Plus and the iPhone X I would also be 
>> surprised if they don’t continue with this trend and make a premium phone in 
>> addition to 2 or 3 regular ones similar to how they have the iPad Pro. OLED 
>> screens of course probably also become standard so it will be interesting to 
>> see what they come up with to set a high-end phone apart from the rest so 
>> that people are willing to spend an extra couple of hundred Dollars on it, 
>> maybe I’m wrong and next year all phnes will get Face Id, OLED screen and 
>> everything else which sets the iPhone X apart this year.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 8:40 PM
>> To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
>> viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why
>>  
>>  
>> I’m worried that FaceID is going to suck—and here’s why
>> Ars Technica  /  Ron Amadeo
>> 
>> 
>> Enlarge / This right here. This gesture. Doing this 80 times a day sucks.
>> The all-new iPhone X is out, and it's packed with technology. But one thing 
>> it's not packed with is a fingerprint sensor. Like many phones in 2017, the 
>> iPhone X goes for a nearly all-screen design, which means there's no more 
>> room for a front Touch ID sensor. Rather than locate a fingerprint sensor on 
>> the back, like many phones have done, Apple chose to do away with Touch ID 
>> entirely. Instead, the X is relying only on the new "Face ID" facial 
>> recognition feature for biometric security.
>> 
>> Face ID on the iPhone X uses a "TrueDepth" camera setup, which blasts your 
>> face with more than 30,000 infrared dots and scans your face in 3D. Apple 
>> says this can "recognize you in an instant" and log you into your phone.
>> None of that matters. Face ID is still going to suck.
>> 
>> This is not the first phone we've tried with a facial recognition feature, 
>> and they all have the same problem. It doesn't matter how fast or accurate 
>> Face ID is, the problem is the ergonomics: you need to aim it at your face. 
>> This is slow and awkward, especially when compared to a fingerprint reader, 
>> which doesn't have to be aimed at anything.
>> 
>> Consider the "taking it out of your pocket" use case: If you're good, you'll 
>> stick your hand in your pocket and grip the phone so your finger lands on 
>> the fingerprint reader. Touch ID works as both an "on" button and an 
>> "authentication" button. In one touch, you've turned on the phone and logged 
>> in. You haven't even fully taken the phone out of your pocket yet, and it's 
>> already on and unlocked. By the time you bring the phone to your face, the 
>> unlock process is finished and you're looking at the home screen.
>> 
>> To use the iPhone X's Face ID, you have take the phone out of your pocket, 
>> lift it up to your face, swipe up to turn it on, and only then can can you 
>> start the unlock process. The difference is probably one or two seconds, but 
>> for something you do 80 times a day, having the fastest possible unlock 
>> system really matters.
>> 
>> 
>> Hardware involved in Apple's True Depth Camera system.
>> 
>> Example of how Face ID maps and learns your face.
>> 
>> Demo of Face ID setup.
>> 
>> Animojis, which move to mimic your facial expressions.
>> 
>> 3D mask produced with facial recognition on the iPhone X.
>> 
>> Face ID recognition along with a tap of the side button can authenticate 
>> Apple Pay.
>> Consider authenticating with Apple Pay. With a fingerprint reader, you can 
>> slam your iPhone on the credit card terminal while holding your finger on 
>> the Touch ID button, and everything will just work. You're continuously 
>> authenticating and beaming credit card data at the same time, which is easy, 
>> intuitive, and hard to mess up. According to Craig Federighi's Face ID demo 
>> during the keynote, you now have to open up Apple Pay first, then aim the 
>> phone at your face so Face ID can work. Only then can you tap against the 
>> credit card terminal. That's two extra steps.
>> 
>> A fingerprint sensor, because it works by touch, is basically active all the 
>> time. Anytime you need it, you just press it, and it will work. Facial 
>> recognition has to be specifically started by an app though. So to 
>> authenticate a payment, you now have to open Apple Pay first, because 
>> something has to tell the facial recognition system to turn on. If you 
>> ignore this and just put the phone against a credit card terminal without 
>> authenticating, I suspect Apple Pay will open and ask for a Face ID scan, 
>> which won't work because the phone won't be aimed at your face.
>> 
>> There's also the "on a table" use case: where before you could just press 
>> the home button to unlock the phone, now you'll need to pick it up and, 
>> again, aim it at your face.
>> 
>> We've kind of already experienced this with the Galaxy S8 (and Note 8). On 
>> that phone, Samsung didn't do away with the fingerprint sensor entirely, but 
>> it has such an awkward size and location that the S8 might as well have not 
>> had a fingerprint sensor at all. The phone design asks users to rely on its 
>> Iris or face recognition for biometrics, and it's just so slow. The "Let me 
>> take a selfie" pose that you have to make every time you unlock the phone is 
>> slow, tiring, and annoying. It requires a pause and a level of precision 
>> that just isn't needed with a fingerprint reader.
>> I will admit I have not tried Face ID yet, but it's hard to imagine a facial 
>> recognition system that solves the problem of having to carefully aim a 
>> phone at your face. We won't get a chance to try many of these scenarios 
>> until we get some extended time with the phone, but it would take some 
>> serious magic to solve them.
>> 
>> With a nearly $1000 price tag, Apple is billing the iPhone X as its 
>> super-high-end, no-compromise phone, but the lack of a fingerprint sensor is 
>> going to be a big downside. Sure, there's no room on the front anymore, but 
>> plenty of phones have an easy and ergonomic rear fingerprint reader, and 
>> it's something Apple could have done while it waits for that mythical 
>> under-screen fingerprint technology to work.
>> 
>> Facial recognition is just not a good idea for a device that doesn't always 
>> need to be aimed directly at your face. I can't imagine Face ID won't feel 
>> like a big step backwards compared to Touch ID. If my experience with the 
>> Galaxy S8 is anything to go by, I suspect a lot of users will just opt to 
>> type in a PIN.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Original Article: https://arstechnica.com/?p=1164837
>> 
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