Hi Maria, 
 Unfortunately, that won't work for me.  If the face id doesn't recognize my 
face the first time, I don't get a second chance, so in order to unlock the 
phone, I have to enter my pass code.  Smile!  Now, if I have to enter my pass 
code to unlock the phone when I am out, I don't feel comfortable entering my 
pass code when out in public though.  I don't think that is a smart thing to 
do, as one might not know who is around.  I know when I power down the phone I 
have to enter my pass code.  
Although, I have to admit when I unlock my phone using face id, I'm quite 
amazed that the face id can still recognize my face even if I'm in the dark or 
even if I am wearing my sun glasses, as when I set up the face id feature, I 
wasn't wearing my sun glasses, and I was in a bright setting, and I even had 
the screen curtain turned on as I usually do, but I forgot it was on when I was 
setting up the face id.  I think this alone is quite amazing though!  I'm 
actually blown away by this!  It doesn't take much to please me!  Smile! 

Janet 

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Reyes
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?

Hi Janet, 
If you completely power down your phone you will have to enter your code then 
after that you can use Face ID. 

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 4:08 PM, janet gross <janet.harv...@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Aleeha and all,  
> 
> Oh how I wish this home gesture would work with my xr phone, because when 
> face id doesn't work the first time, I have no other choice but to enter my 
> code, or simply turn off the phone, and try it again.  Although, when I am 
> out and about, I usually will turn off the phone, and I will then try the 
> face id instead of entering my code when out in public, as I don't feel 
> comfortable entering my code when out in public.  
> 
> Janet 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Aleeha Dudley
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 12:00 PM
> To: viPhone
> Subject: Re: Face ID: how to initiate second scan with Voice Over?
> 
> Hi, 
> You can also perform the home gesture by swiping up from the bottom, This 
> will initiate a second scan.
> Aleeha 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Most of the time the Face ID works pretty well on my iPhone XS, but now and 
>> then it fails to recognize me. I believe since iOS 12, the times the scan 
>> tries is only once. After that you have to put in your code or switch it off 
>> and wake the iPhone again to try again.
>> After a search I have learned sighted users can initiate a second scan with 
>> a finger flick from a bottom corner upwards. This doesn’t work with Voice 
>> Over. No other finger flick seems to do the trick for that matter.
>> I have asked Apple Accessibility about this, but they never answer me 
>> unfortunately.
>> Does anyone here know if there is a way to scan again with Voice Over?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
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