The update was actually very quick. But I still have no tune in radio. It won’t 
load up. That’s a disappointment.

Deidre


> On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:02 PM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
>    Ok, Dave. I hear you.
>    I had a hard time deciding to do without the phone tonight, since it is 
> still early in the evening. I know it will take time. I'm now eager to see 
> the result. However, as I suspected I might,  I lost Tune In Radio when I 
> updated. It won't open. Maybe after I update the IOS, it will.
> 
> Deidre
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dave
> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 7:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: updating
> 
> 
> One more thing. Just remember, that the update, will be larger in size, as 
> you have missed quite a few updates. So, it may take longer to download, and 
> install, as the iPhone 6, has a slower processor, than the later phones. So 
> don't panic, if it takes a while to update, and restart. Just keep it 
> plugged into the mains power, and leave it to do it's thing, and don't do 
> that thing, that some people do, and start pressing buttons, and trying to 
> reboot their phones.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 11:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: updating
> 
> OK I'm going to go to the App Store now and update everything! Thanks for 
> the encouragement. Hopefully I won't be crying online tomorrow morning.From 
> the PC!
> 
> Deidre
> 
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Dave <dave.beckett...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> If you follow the instructions, that Sieghard gave earlier, you should 
>> have no problems.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Deidre Muccio
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 10:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: updating
>> 
>> My main concern is that it's a very big jump from 10 three to the current 
>> iOS. I'm recalling the problems that Mario had when doing a similar big 
>> jump.
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Cristobal Muñoz <cristobalm...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yup. My iPhone SE can show its age depending on what I want to do, but 
>>> over all, it holds up favorably compared to my XR. Both on iOS 12.4.
>>> I can't think of any compelling reason why anyone would want to stick 
>>> with iOS 10.X. Maybe there's a particular app or service they don't want 
>>> to lose, but even then, there's probably an alternative available at this 
>>> point and who's to say how much longer an app or service that only works 
>>> with older versions of iOS will continue to work?
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:49 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: updating
>>> 
>>> I completely agree, your friend who said the updates are designed more 
>>> for newer devices is not correct at all. As Anna said, especially iOS 12 
>>> was very much a release where Apple concentrated on fixing bugs, 
>>> improving performance and efficiency instead of introducing a lot of new 
>>> features. During the keynote they actually specifically mentioned this 
>>> and showed how much better iOS 12 ran on an iPhone 6.
>>> Keep in mind as well that while iOS 10 is still mostly supported, I just 
>>> received an email from Dropbox where they announced that they will drop 
>>> support for iOS 10 as well as hardware which does not support 64-bit 
>>> architecture. This means the iPhone 5/5C or earlier and the iPad fourth 
>>> generation and earlier. If you use Dropbox the app will soon no longer 
>>> work on any of those devices or on newer devices which haven't been 
>>> upgraded at least to iOS 11.
>>> The current version of iOS is 12.4 and just as Anna, I highly recommend 
>>> you update. Just make sure you follow a few basic rules:
>>> 
>>> 1. Go to the app store app and check for updates and make sure all your 
>>> apps are updated 2. Close all apps from the app switcher 3. Turn your 
>>> phone off, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on 4. Go to Settings > 
>>> General  > Software Update and install iOS 12.4 5. After the installation 
>>> finishes and the phone has rebooted, leave it plugged in over night since 
>>> there is a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes after such a major 
>>> update. Then in the morning I would do another reboot of your phone and 
>>> you should be fine and most likely you will notice your old phone is 
>>> snappier than before.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>> Anna Dresner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 8:55 AM
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: updating
>>> 
>>> Hello Deidre,
>>> 
>>> Apple put a lot of work into improving the performance of older devices 
>>> in iOS 12. I would encourage you to update. You'll get a lot of security 
>>> fixes as well. Also, it's possible that apps will perform better, since 
>>> developers tend to gear their apps to newer versions of operating systems 
>>> first.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 7, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'deidre muccio' via VIPhone 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>>>> Hey all
>>>> I'm one of those old dinasaur's who never updated beyond 10.3. I've
>>>> got plenty of storage left on my iPhone 6. One friend with a 5S said
>>>> the more recent updates were not any kind of improvement for his
>>>> phone, and he proclaimed that the updates were geared to newer phones.
>>>> I fear the jump from 10.3 to 12.3 might cause some problems at this 
>>>> point.
>>>>  Speaking of newer versions of Apps, I downloaded the Facebook App
>>>> recently and have deleted it several times already. It's back on the
>>>> phone again with the same issue that drove me to delete it twice
>>>> already. I get bumped out of the post I am reading and don't know why.
>>>> I assume it is because some notification is coming in or perhaps the
>>>> newsfeed is being refreshed automatically. It's annoying. I wish I
>>>> hadn't deleted my older version some time ago. It worked just fine
>>>> without all the bumping me back to the top of the page. Unfortunately,
>>>> or unfortunately, the Facebook App is so much easier to use with a
>>>> screen reader than accessing it through their main site.
>>>>  Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so did you ever resolve
>>>> it?
>>>> 
>>>> Deidre
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