Again and again
accessibil...@apple.com 
bomb bomb bomb bomb and bomb again again and again!!!!!!!!

I’ve recently had contact with a accessibility member of Apple who told me that 
really and I believe him, very few people report bugs.

Anybody pretends: MMMM I think others will report why should I do. I’m just 
lazy!

It is our own fault Apple won’t fix any bugs. Bomb and bomb again, tell it to 
journalists tell it to newspapers, bomb Apples facebook and twitter accounts!
Davy 

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Persistent Annoying Issues In The Mail App

Tom, you are not alone. 
I turned off message threading because it is more of a pain than it is worth.
And, as for deleting messages, about half of the time I stay where it should, 
but just as often, I end up either back several messages, or on the back button.
And I'm on the beta for what that is worth.





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



  On Jan 30, 2020, at 6:40 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote:


  Hi Tom,

  No, you are not alone. I can certainly verify the first issue you mentioned. 
As far as threads are concerned, are used to land on the first message of the 
thread so I’m not experiencing that issue. Like you, I keep popping an apple 
fix it, but the male issue has been a problem in life in the beginning. I think 
it’s the worst update apples ever sent out here. I don’t know if it’s ever 
going to get fixed in iOS 13. But I keep hoping it will at some point.

  Sent from my iPhone


    On Jan 30, 2020, at 4:36 AM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:



    Hi all,

    I’m running an iPhone 8 with IOS 13.3.1. Every time I update IOS I keep 
hoping that maybe, just maybe, Apple will finally fix the following 

    issues that I’m having with the native Mail app.

    First, when flicking through a list of messages then deleting one, it’s 
highly unlikely that focus will remain at the message before the one that I 
just deleted. There’s no telling where focus will be, but more often than not I 
end up having to scroll or flick back down through the list to a message that I 
want to read, at which time I can open it.

    Second, if I open a message thread that I’ve never viewed, odds are pretty 
good that the message that pops up is not the first message in the thread, and 
I have to use the rotor, select Messages, then flick up until I find the first 
message. As a side note, VO will speak the number of the message that I land 
on, for example, Message 2 or Message 3, et cetera, but that information won’t 
show up on my Braille display. And don’t even get me started on how flakey 
Braille support can be. 



    Is anybody else having these issues, or am I the lone voice crying out in 
the wilderness?



    Tom



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