Tom, I am having them too.  I am no longer having the threading issue only 
because I turned off threading for now because it's more trouble than it's 
worth to me right now.  I keep hoping for improvement and being disappointed.  
I, too, use a braille display sometimes and it's really important for me to be 
able to use the mail app efficiently, which I don't feel able to do right now.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 9:36 AM
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Subject: Persistent Annoying Issues In The Mail App

Hi all,
I’m running an iPhone 8 with IOS 13.3.1. Every time I update IOS I keep hoping 
that maybe, just maybe, Apple will finally fix the following issues that I’m 
having with the native Mail app.
First, when flicking through a list of messages then deleting one, it’s highly 
unlikely that focus will remain at the message before the one that I just 
deleted. There’s no telling where focus will be, but more often than not I end 
up having to scroll or flick back down through the list to a message that I 
want to read, at which time I can open it.
Second, if I open a message thread that I’ve never viewed, odds are pretty good 
that the message that pops up is not the first message in the thread, and I 
have to use the rotor, select Messages, then flick up until I find the first 
message. As a side note, VO will speak the number of the message that I land 
on, for example, Message 2 or Message 3, et cetera, but that information won’t 
show up on my Braille display. And don’t even get me started on how flakey 
Braille support can be. 

Is anybody else having these issues, or am I the lone voice crying out in the 
wilderness?

Tom

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