I saw on their web site they're also giving away free slates and styluses. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail
> -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf > Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 3:14 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Scanning solution > > NFB is spending a fortune to keep NFB news Line up and running. They provide > so many services. Even giving away free canes. > > I'm confused as to why anyone wants to criticize NFB. > > James B > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf > Of Carolyn > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 2:58 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Scanning solution > > NFB is a service agency and a lobby for the blind. But, it has to raise > funds, other > than dues, in order to survive. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 3:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Scanning solution > > And if the person who makes this stand and who used to sell it for $12 now > sells > it for $12 to NFB you should not expect them to sell it for $15, that is a 20% > margin and no business can survive on that. > > As a retailer I have often come across somebody who thought they had this > awesome product and they wanted me to sell it. At the same time they would > sell it themselves for say $50 and then I asked them what I would have to pay > for > the product. In many cases they told me the would give me a 10% or 15% > discount for selling their product and they were surprised when I told them > that > in retail that unfortunately does not cut it. It is often impossible to > explain to > somebody that they would have to sell it to me for $30 if they want me to > sell it > for $50 if it should be worth my while or, if they want to sell it to me for > $45 and > I would have to sell it for $75 to make a decent margin that they also should > sell > it for that price themselves. > > Of course if they want me to sell something on consignment where they give me > the product and I only pay them for what I sell I can go a bit lower, but at > the > same time I may have competing products which I sell at a 35% or 40% margin > and there is very little incentive for me to try and sell the customer that > other > product where I may only make a 25% margin. > > And if shipping is involved I don’t blame anybody who charges a handling fee > if > they have to stock, pack and ship a product for which they make a $3 profit. I > understand the NFB in the US is a government agency or maybe I’m wrong, here > in Canada we have the CNIB (Canadian Federation for the Blind) and while they > are a government agency, they also sell products for profit at their stores > and I > don’t blame them because just as with most government agencies funding is > always a problem and they often have to find ways to make a bit of money to > support their programs. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Sieghard > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf > Of Dennis Long > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 12:08 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Scanning solution > > > > Yes it was something like $19.98 to me that’s $20. > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf > Of Richard Turner > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 8:01 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Scanning solution > > > > So, are they charging $20 total? > > Tomek charged $12, and shipped free matter without charging anything for > handling. He would ship on the weekends while he was home from his day job > which often required some travel. > > He was not making any money really other than being able to continue buying > the materials. > > So, on the one hand, if he is still able to make them because the NFB is > selling > them for a small profit, that is fine. > > The week of the 25th, I will be writing up a review of another inexpensive > stand > option. > > This one is called the Scanner Bin. > > I saw one already assembled, but I'm getting a new one and will see how > assembly goes. > > > > Richard > > Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it > just stops you from enjoying the good." > > > > Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 > > www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> > > > > > > On May 16, 2020, at 11:06 PM, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com > <mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I responded Richard I just saw your message. The NFB should also bring > back online ordering. They said they were going to but haven’t for whatever > reason. > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 11:48 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Scanning solution > > > > Early on, Dennis Long said that the NFB charged for shipping. > > But he has not responded after I asked how much they were charging. > > I had written the Independence Market asking about the stand as people > who have seen mine wanted to know where to get it, and because Tomek > Wardiga, the creator of these stands, was no longer able to ship free matter, > I > was trying to find out. > > The people at the Independence Market have never responded to my > emails. > > So, at this point, it is unsubstantiated about them charging for > shipping, > but the statement was made. > > Just waiting for someone to confirm with specifics, or clear it up. > > > > Richard > > Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from > happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." > > > > Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 > > www.turner42.com > <https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu > rner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C6d8f4d24dff44c12eb9f08d7fa2872ba% > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252923937578889& > sdata=yMxMTMJNa%2BI1%2FTBaxCbKp8DWM6w49Zf3B0RS1EZF3rQ%3D&rese > rved=0> > > > > > > > > On May 16, 2020, at 8:35 PM, "chalt...@gmail.com > <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> " <chalt...@gmail.com > <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I don’t see anything in this thread that says the NFB was > charging for shipping. There’s a statement on how the post office wasn’t > giving > permission for this stand to be shipped as free matter and then there’s a > statement that the NFB was considering carrying this stand as part of their > Independence Market. > > > > I’m always weary of broad unsubstantiated statements like this > that seem more like someone has a bone to pick then actually conveying useful > and accurate information. > > > > Even if the NFB were able to ship these stands as free matter, > it > wouldn’t be fair for them to pass on the cost of the postal shipping charges > to > the customer, but it could still involve staff spending time and resources > shipping > these stands out. I wouldn’t have a problem paying an appropriate amount of > money for this service. > > > > -- > > Christopher (AKA CJ) > > Chaltain at Gmail > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Andy Baracco > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:54 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Scanning solution > > > > It's appropriate to charge for shipping if you are paying to > have > it shipped. It is not if you are shipping free matter. > > > > Andy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Larry Lumpkin <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 6:14 PM > > Subject: RE: Scanning solution > > > > I think it’s perfectly appropriate for NFB to charge for > shipping. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 8:01 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Scanning solution > > > > How much are they charging? > > Since I got no reply, just wondering. > > > > Richard > > Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad > stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." > > > > Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 > > www.turner42.com > <https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu > rner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C6d8f4d24dff44c12eb9f08d7fa2872ba% > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252923937588884& > sdata=wwchZlbvDfwgp68TtTJoFDPZCpyT8%2F%2FQyzxJ3oce5wQ%3D&reserved > =0> > > > > > > On May 16, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Dennis Long > <dennisl1...@gmail.com <mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > They have them. Note they charge for free > mater shipping. Typical NFB not helping the blind but screwing them over. > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 4:17 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Scanning solution > > > > The Fopydo stand is my first choice, but he was > having major issues with his Post Office refusing to send things free matter > unless he went through a bunch of hoops to get a special permit. > > At one point, the Independence Market of the > NFB was considering carrying them. > > I wrote them, but have not had a response in > 10 days. > > > > > > > > Richard > > "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in > a window in Portland, Oregon. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:10 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Scanning solution > > > > Take a look at: > > > > http://fopydo.com/scanningstandfortheblind > <https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffopydo. > com%2Fscanningstandfortheblind&data=02%7C01%7C%7C6d8f4d24dff44c12eb > 9f08d7fa2872ba%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63725 > 2923937598877&sdata=IJySqBPwWJCTyEo0Fj28N%2FY2oYdiObQdbrbpFpiTKhI% > 3D&reserved=0> > > Malcolm Parfitt > > > > On 12 May 2020, at 20:05, > bentleyj1...@gmail.com <mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Where can I purchase a stand? > > > > Many thanks, > > > > James B > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 7:19 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Scanning solution > > > > Since you wrote to the iPhone list, I'm > guessing you plan to do this with an iPhone. > > I do not know of any scanners that > work with iPhones, beyond what you can do with the iPhone camera itself. > > For A4 documents, I'm assuming these > are text documents, I think Voice Dream Scanner is the best solution: > > You may also want a scanning stand so > you don't have to hold the phone about 12 inches above the document if you > are doing a ton of these. > > Is the plan for the photos to just > digitize them? > > If so, just use the Camera and have > someone sighted crop them so just your photo is left. > > With photos, you want to follow the > same distance ratio as with documents, and have the phone about as far above > the photo as the photo is tall. > > That could get tricky which is why you > will need sighted assistance to crop the picture later. > > > > Richard > > Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying > won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the > good." > > > > Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 > > www.turner42.com > <https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu > rner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C6d8f4d24dff44c12eb9f08d7fa2872ba% > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637252923937608874& > sdata=XRZjbGMRayJWxh6G2m7hnm%2BZ8jL6KEAiUuLiAtp9k%2B4%3D&reserve > d=0> > > > > > > > > > On May 12, 2020, at 2:57 AM, Ian > Harrison <ihcla...@gmail.com <mailto:ihcla...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi listers, > > I need to get a scanner for photos and > A4 documents. Wireless would be nice but not if expensive. The main project > is a > load of photos my wife has but doesn’t have the time to scan them herself. > Therefore it is my job to do the tedious task and it would be nice to have > simple > software that could detect the edges of the photos automatically and > prefereably be voice over accessible. Any suggestions? > > Thanks > Ian > > -- > The following information is important > for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns > about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is > inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than > posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark > Taylor. 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