Hi Allen,

This is so refreshing to hear.  I have a friend who, every time there is an 
update, he refers to Apple engineers and beta testers in all kinds of ways 
other than children of God.

I encourage him to either write to Accessibility and/or become a beta tester 
which he would be great at.  To this day, he has done neither.

And you’re right.  It will take beating that drum patiently and courteously 
until this issue is fixed.  It probably won’t be until maybe IOS 14 comes out.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2020, at 2:24 PM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> 
> Thank you for making it so easy to write to Apple.  I’ve sent them an e-mail.
> 
> Kim
> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes, anyone experiencing this should write accessibil...@apple.com
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>>  
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>> From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 10:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Experience of others with iOS 13.5 and native Mail app lost 
>> focus issue?
>>  
>> Yes.  This is irritating.  I planned to ask this group about this but didn’t 
>> know the word for it which is “focus”, so thank you for that.
>>  
>> So now what?  Do we just wait for the next update?  Write to Apple 
>> accessibility?
>>  
>> Thanks for any direction.
>>  
>> Kim
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On May 21, 2020, at 9:10 AM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi List,
>>  
>> I'm still disappointed that the native Mail app loses focus when I've 
>> reviewing emails with it in iOS 13.5. I have a gmail account and review 
>> emails in threads and the Mail app has been unable to retain focus on the 
>> message on which I'm located ever since iOS 13 came out. It doesn't seem to 
>> do any better with iOS 13.5 than it has with other iterations. If a new 
>> email comes in while focus is at the bottom of the screen on a much older 
>> message, focus is jumping to this new email. It also isn't keeping focus 
>> correctly when I expand a thread containing multiple messages.
>>  
>> Are others still experiencing this behavior? Has anyone come up with 
>> procedures to work with this focus issue because I find going through my new 
>> emails each morning to be a major pain and time waster.
>>  
>> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
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