Hi Ann, When Speak Screen is turned on, swipe down with 2 fingers from the top of the screen to hear the content of the screen.
HTH, Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Byrne" <ann...@sbcglobal.net> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 10:34 AM Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window What is speak screen supposed to do? If VoiceOver is on, the screen is spoken. At 08:27 AM 6/7/2020, you wrote: >That's good it still works. It says in >Accessibility / Spoken content, or at least it >insinuates, that Speak Screen needs to be turned >on to work. I should have tested it before >posting. Thank you for the heads-up. > >Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. > *My body has absorbed so much soap and > disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet. >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>Ryan Mann >To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 6:15 AM >Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: >Removing the clutter on The message window > >I have speak screen disabled. I can still swipe >down with two fingers to read the screen. This is a voice over feature. > >Get <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>Outlook for iOS > >---------- >From: ><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com ><<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> >on behalf of Mike B. ><<mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>mb69ma...@fastmail.com> >Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 9:42:27 PM >To: ><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com ><<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> >Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: >Removing the clutter on The message window > >Carolyn, if you disable, Speak Screen, the 2 >finger swipe down gesture from the top of the >screen won't read the screen contents any >longer, that's if you ever use this feature just so you know. > >Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. > *My body has absorbed so much soap and > disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet. >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>Richard Turner >To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 5:48 PM >Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: >Removing the clutter on The message window > >Carolyn, >Check under Settings, Accessibility, Spoken Content. >Turn off speak screen and speak selection if they are on. > > > >Richard >Chicken: A pet that poops breakfast > > > > On Jun 6, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Carolyn > <<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net>4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > > > I get some kind of stuff about speak > screen too that is in my way, especially when > entering access code or when entering a phone > number. Whatever it is, I think I'd be as well off with tit disabled. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave > > Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 7:25 PM > > To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: > Removing the clutter on The message window > > > > no. > > > > Dave. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dennis Long > > Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 12:22 AM > > To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: RE: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: > Removing the clutter on The message window > > > > Can the scroll bar be disabled? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com > <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Shirley Baker > > Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 12:45 PM > > To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: > Removing the clutter on The message window > > > > Can you give me a little more instructions > about finding a certain email using the scroll > bar because this is what I would probably use > it for. This does make sense but I just want a > little more help in understanding about finding say a certain email. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jun 6, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Nicola Sanders > >> <<mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be>nicola.sand...@telenet.be> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Shirley, > >> Sure, I'll give it a try. I've edited the subject line to reflect the > >> shift in topic. I'll explain how the scroll bar works and give a > >> couple of examples of how I use it. > >> As you know, the vertical scroll bar is a very narrow strip running > >> down the right-hand edge of the screen. If you are at the top of a > >> list (or a document, a webpage or whatever), when you touch the > >> vertical scroll bar, VoiceOver will say "vertical scroll bar, 0%". > >> When you swipe down on the scroll bar with one finger, it moves you > >> down through the list in increments of 10%; so however long your list > >> or page may be, you can get from top to bottom with just ten > >> one-finger swipes. The alternative would be to swipe up using three > >> fingers, but that gesture moves you in far smaller increments, just a > >> screen at a time, and so it takes a lot > longer to move through the list and locate what you're looking for. > >> One example where I find this useful is a TV app in the UK, called > >> Sky+. > >> In the TV guide section there are hundreds of channels, numbered 1 to > >> 999, with a few gaps in the numbering. Supposing I'm I want to read > >> the channels starting from number 500 onwards: I touch the vertical > >> scroll bar and swipe down to around 50%, and I know I won't be far > >> off. I touch the middle of the screen to read one of the channel > >> numbers currently displayed, and I can then use the three-finger swipe > >> up or down to find the exact location. If I were to do a three-finger > >> swipe through the whole list, it would take me far longer, as each > >> screen only consists of around six channels. Also, I don't find it > >> that easy to use that gesture repeatedly and very fast, and I'm > >> inclined to lose focus and have to tap the middle of the screen before > >> continuing. There are no such problems with the vertical scroll bar. > >> I also find it useful when navigating through my email inbox. I have > >> far too many messages in there and am in the process of cleaning them > >> up. > >> Obviously I can search for a specific message, but I may just want to > >> look at the emails that I received around a certain time. Again, the > >> three-finger swipe would take ages. > >> I often use the scroll bar to find my place in a long document or > >> newspaper article if I get interrupted. I use it with large web pages > >> as well, as it can often be difficult to navigate through the whole > >> page by headings. In many situations I can do a three-finger tap on > >> the middle of the screen to hear roughly where I am, e.g. "rows 35 to > >> 41 of 72"; next time I want to find that location, I use the scroll > >> bar to go to 50%, and I know I won't be far out. > >> Note that the scroll bar works in the opposite direction to the > >> three-finger swipe: you swipe down on the scroll bar, but up when > >> using the traditional swipe gesture, to move from the top to the > >> bottom. > >> I hope that made some sense - if not, let me know and I'll try to > >> clarify. > >> HTH, > >> Nicky > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com > <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > >> Shirley Baker > >> Sent: 06 June 2020 05:56 > >> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com > >> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window > >> > >> What long lists might you be referring to because I just don't > >> understand how to use this. Maybe you could explain to where it would > >> make sense please. > >> q > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>>> On Jun 5, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Nicola Sanders > >>>> <<mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be>nicola.sand...@telenet.be> > >>>> wrote: > >>> Maybe I'm the only one, but personally I love the vertical scroll > >>> bar! I find it really useful for navigating very long lists - much > >>> quicker than endless three-finger swiping. > Perhaps it should be an option in Settings. > >>> Best, > >>> Nicky > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com > <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf > >>> Of Carolyn > >>> Sent: 05 June 2020 20:35 > >>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com > >>> Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window Boy I would > >>> too! > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > >>> Behalf Of Dave > >>> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:16 PM > >>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com > >>> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window I would like > >>> the option. To hide the vertical scrol lbar. > >>> Dave. > >>> From: Anne West <<mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com>mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com> > >>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 6:30 PM > >>> To: > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > >>> Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window I agree. It > >>> seems the world is suddenly camera happy. I would like to get rid of > >>> that info too. It’s annoying. > >>> From: > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com > <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf > >>> Of Afik Souffir > >>> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:40 > >>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com > >>> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window Hi Ann, I > >>> dont think that its have an option for this. > >>> Sent from my Iphone > >>>> On 5 Jun 2020, at 16:35, Ann Byrne > <<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>ann...@sbcglobal.net > >>>> <mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > >>> On the texting screen, there is all kinds of clutter including the > >>> names of other apps, camera, record, and so on. Is there a way to > >>> clear the crud off the screen so a beginner (or experienceder) can > >>> navigate directly to the text area and the keyboard without having to > >>> negotiate fifteen other items that don't relate to texting? > >>> I hope. > >>> Thx, > >>> -- > >>> The following information is important for all members of the V > >>> iPhone list. > >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this > >>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please > >>> contact the owners or moderators directly > rather than posting on the list itself. > >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached > >>> at: <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>mk...@ucla.edu > <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . 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