Hi Ann,
When Speak Screen is turned on,
swipe down with 2 fingers from the top of the screen to hear the content of 
the screen.

HTH,
Rick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ann Byrne" <ann...@sbcglobal.net>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The 
message window


What is speak screen supposed to do?  If
VoiceOver is on, the screen is spoken.
At 08:27 AM 6/7/2020, you wrote:
>That's good it still works.  It says in
>Accessibility / Spoken content, or at least it
>insinuates, that Speak Screen needs to be turned
>on to work.  I should have tested it before
>posting.  Thank you for the heads-up.
>
>Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and
> disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>Ryan Mann
>To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 6:15 AM
>Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE:
>Removing the clutter on The message window
>
>I have speak screen disabled. I can still swipe
>down with two fingers to read the screen. This is a voice over feature.
>
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>From:
><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
><<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com>
>on behalf of Mike B. 
><<mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>mb69ma...@fastmail.com>
>Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 9:42:27 PM
>To:
><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
><<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com>
>Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE:
>Removing the clutter on The message window
>
>Carolyn, if you disable, Speak Screen, the 2
>finger swipe down gesture from the top of the
>screen won't read the screen contents any
>longer, that's if you ever use this feature just so you know.
>
>Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and
> disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>Richard Turner
>To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 5:48 PM
>Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE:
>Removing the clutter on The message window
>
>Carolyn,
>Check under Settings, Accessibility, Spoken Content.
>Turn off speak screen and speak selection if they are on.
>
>
>
>Richard
>Chicken: A pet that poops breakfast
>
>
> > On Jun 6, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Carolyn
> <<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net>4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> >
> > I get some kind of stuff about speak
> screen too that is in my way, especially when
> entering access code or when entering a phone
> number. Whatever it is, I think I'd be as well off with tit disabled.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave
> > Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 7:25 PM
> > To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE:
> Removing the clutter on The message window
> >
> > no.
> >
> > Dave.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dennis Long
> > Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 12:22 AM
> > To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE:
> Removing the clutter on The message window
> >
> > Can the  scroll bar be disabled?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com>
> On Behalf Of Shirley Baker
> > Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 12:45 PM
> > To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE:
> Removing the clutter on The message window
> >
> > Can you give me a little more instructions
> about finding a certain email using the scroll
> bar because this is what I would probably use
> it for. This does make sense but I just want a
> little more help in understanding about finding say a certain email.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jun 6, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Nicola Sanders
> >> <<mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be>nicola.sand...@telenet.be>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Shirley,
> >> Sure, I'll give it a try. I've edited the subject line to reflect the
> >> shift in topic. I'll explain how the scroll bar works and give a
> >> couple of examples of how I use it.
> >> As you know, the vertical scroll bar is a very narrow strip running
> >> down the right-hand edge of the screen. If you are at the top of a
> >> list (or a document, a webpage or whatever), when you touch the
> >> vertical scroll bar, VoiceOver will say "vertical scroll bar, 0%".
> >> When you swipe down on the scroll bar with one finger, it moves you
> >> down through the list in increments of 10%; so however long your list
> >> or page may be, you can get from top to bottom with just ten
> >> one-finger swipes. The alternative would be to swipe up using three
> >> fingers, but that gesture moves you in far smaller increments, just a
> >> screen at a time, and so it takes a lot
> longer to move through the list and locate what you're looking for.
> >> One example where I find this useful is a TV app in the UK, called 
> >> Sky+.
> >> In the TV guide section there are hundreds of channels, numbered 1 to
> >> 999, with a few gaps in the numbering. Supposing I'm I want to read
> >> the channels starting from number 500 onwards: I touch the vertical
> >> scroll bar and swipe down to around 50%, and I know I won't be far
> >> off. I touch the middle of the screen to read one of the channel
> >> numbers currently displayed, and I can then use the three-finger swipe
> >> up or down to find the exact location. If I were to do a three-finger
> >> swipe through the whole list, it would take me far longer, as each
> >> screen only consists of around six channels. Also, I don't find it
> >> that easy to use that gesture repeatedly and very fast, and I'm
> >> inclined to lose focus and have to tap the middle of the screen before
> >> continuing. There are no such problems with the vertical scroll bar.
> >> I also find it useful when navigating through my email inbox. I have
> >> far too many messages in there and am in the process of cleaning them 
> >> up.
> >> Obviously I can search for a specific message, but I may just want to
> >> look at the emails that I received around a certain time. Again, the
> >> three-finger swipe would take ages.
> >> I often use the scroll bar to find my place in a long document or
> >> newspaper article if I get interrupted. I use it with large web pages
> >> as well, as it can often be difficult to navigate through the whole
> >> page by headings. In many situations I can do a three-finger tap on
> >> the middle of the screen to hear roughly where I am, e.g. "rows 35 to
> >> 41 of 72"; next time I want to find that location, I use the scroll
> >> bar to go to 50%, and I know I won't be far out.
> >> Note that the scroll bar works in the opposite direction to the
> >> three-finger swipe: you swipe down on the scroll bar, but up when
> >> using the traditional swipe gesture, to move from the top to the 
> >> bottom.
> >> I hope that made some sense - if not, let me know and I'll try to 
> >> clarify.
> >> HTH,
> >> Nicky
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
> >> Shirley Baker
> >> Sent: 06 June 2020 05:56
> >> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window
> >>
> >> What long lists might you be referring to because I just don't
> >> understand how to use this. Maybe you could explain to where it would
> >> make sense please.
> >> q
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Jun 5, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Nicola Sanders
> >>>> <<mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be>nicola.sand...@telenet.be>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>> Maybe I'm the only one, but personally I love the vertical scroll
> >>> bar! I find it really useful for navigating very long lists - much
> >>> quicker than endless three-finger swiping.
> Perhaps it should be an option in Settings.
> >>> Best,
> >>> Nicky
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From:
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf
> >>> Of Carolyn
> >>> Sent: 05 June 2020 20:35
> >>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window Boy I would
> >>> too!
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From:
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> >>> Behalf Of Dave
> >>> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:16 PM
> >>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window I would like
> >>> the option. To hide the vertical scrol lbar.
> >>> Dave.
> >>> From: Anne West <<mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com>mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com>
> >>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 6:30 PM
> >>> To:
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >>> Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window I agree. It
> >>> seems the world is suddenly camera happy. I would like to get rid of
> >>> that info too. It’s annoying.
> >>> From:
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf
> >>> Of Afik Souffir
> >>> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:40
> >>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window Hi Ann, I
> >>> dont think that its have an option for this.
> >>> Sent from my Iphone
> >>>> On 5 Jun 2020, at 16:35, Ann Byrne
> <<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>ann...@sbcglobal.net
> >>>> <mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:
> >>> On the texting screen, there is all kinds of clutter including the
> >>> names of other apps, camera, record, and so on.  Is there a way to
> >>> clear the crud off the screen so a beginner (or experienceder) can
> >>> navigate directly to the text area and the keyboard without having to
> >>> negotiate fifteen other items that don't relate to texting?
> >>> I hope.
> >>> Thx,
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