I have speak screen turned off VoiceOver turned on now he’s with a finger swipe down to read stuff on the screen.
Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 8, 2020, at 9:01 AM, Marie <magpie...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes the note in settings is quite misleading. I also went there to double > checked that mine was set to off > , but the two finger swipe down still worked. One of those unexplainable > quirks, I guess. > > Marie > -----Original Message----- From: Richard > Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 4:46 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Speak Screen > > Hi Marie, > I just shared what voice over read to me in the settings. > Haven't used the feature, so I can't comment otherwise. > > HTH, > Rick > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie" <magpie...@gmail.com> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 4:38 PM > Subject: Re: Speak Screen > > > This actually works even with speak screen off. > > > > Marie > -----Original Message----- From: Richard > Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 1:09 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Speak Screen > > Hi Ann, > When Speak Screen is turned on, > swipe down with 2 fingers from the top of the screen to hear the content of > the screen. > > HTH, > Rick > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Byrne" <ann...@sbcglobal.net> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 10:34 AM > Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The > message window > > > What is speak screen supposed to do? If > VoiceOver is on, the screen is spoken. > At 08:27 AM 6/7/2020, you wrote: >> That's good it still works. It says in >> Accessibility / Spoken content, or at least it >> insinuates, that Speak Screen needs to be turned >> on to work. I should have tested it before >> posting. Thank you for the heads-up. >> >> Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. >> *My body has absorbed so much soap and >> disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>Ryan Mann >> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 6:15 AM >> Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: >> Removing the clutter on The message window >> >> I have speak screen disabled. I can still swipe >> down with two fingers to read the screen. This is a voice over feature. >> >> Get <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>Outlook for iOS >> >> ---------- >> From: >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> >> on behalf of Mike B. >> <<mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>mb69ma...@fastmail.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 9:42:27 PM >> To: >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: >> Removing the clutter on The message window >> >> Carolyn, if you disable, Speak Screen, the 2 >> finger swipe down gesture from the top of the >> screen won't read the screen contents any >> longer, that's if you ever use this feature just so you know. >> >> Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. >> *My body has absorbed so much soap and >> disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>Richard Turner >> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 5:48 PM >> Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: >> Removing the clutter on The message window >> >> Carolyn, >> Check under Settings, Accessibility, Spoken Content. >> Turn off speak screen and speak selection if they are on. >> >> >> >> Richard >> Chicken: A pet that poops breakfast >> >> >> > On Jun 6, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Carolyn >> <<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net>4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: >> > >> > I get some kind of stuff about speak >> screen too that is in my way, especially when >> entering access code or when entering a phone >> number. Whatever it is, I think I'd be as well off with tit disabled. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave >> > Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 7:25 PM >> > To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> > Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: >> Removing the clutter on The message window >> > >> > no. >> > >> > Dave. >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Dennis Long >> > Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 12:22 AM >> > To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> > Subject: RE: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: >> Removing the clutter on The message window >> > >> > Can the scroll bar be disabled? >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> >> On Behalf Of Shirley Baker >> > Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 12:45 PM >> > To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> > Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: >> Removing the clutter on The message window >> > >> > Can you give me a little more instructions >> about finding a certain email using the scroll >> bar because this is what I would probably use >> it for. This does make sense but I just want a >> little more help in understanding about finding say a certain email. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On Jun 6, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Nicola Sanders >> >> <<mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be>nicola.sand...@telenet.be> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Shirley, >> >> Sure, I'll give it a try. I've edited the subject line to reflect the >> >> shift in topic. I'll explain how the scroll bar works and give a >> >> couple of examples of how I use it. >> >> As you know, the vertical scroll bar is a very narrow strip running >> >> down the right-hand edge of the screen. If you are at the top of a >> >> list (or a document, a webpage or whatever), when you touch the >> >> vertical scroll bar, VoiceOver will say "vertical scroll bar, 0%". >> >> When you swipe down on the scroll bar with one finger, it moves you >> >> down through the list in increments of 10%; so however long your list >> >> or page may be, you can get from top to bottom with just ten >> >> one-finger swipes. The alternative would be to swipe up using three >> >> fingers, but that gesture moves you in far smaller increments, just a >> >> screen at a time, and so it takes a lot >> longer to move through the list and locate what you're looking for. >> >> One example where I find this useful is a TV app in the UK, called >> >> Sky+. >> >> In the TV guide section there are hundreds of channels, numbered 1 to >> >> 999, with a few gaps in the numbering. Supposing I'm I want to read >> >> the channels starting from number 500 onwards: I touch the vertical >> >> scroll bar and swipe down to around 50%, and I know I won't be far >> >> off. I touch the middle of the screen to read one of the channel >> >> numbers currently displayed, and I can then use the three-finger swipe >> >> up or down to find the exact location. If I were to do a three-finger >> >> swipe through the whole list, it would take me far longer, as each >> >> screen only consists of around six channels. Also, I don't find it >> >> that easy to use that gesture repeatedly and very fast, and I'm >> >> inclined to lose focus and have to tap the middle of the screen before >> >> continuing. There are no such problems with the vertical scroll bar. >> >> I also find it useful when navigating through my email inbox. I have >> >> far too many messages in there and am in the process of cleaning them >> >> up. >> >> Obviously I can search for a specific message, but I may just want to >> >> look at the emails that I received around a certain time. Again, the >> >> three-finger swipe would take ages. >> >> I often use the scroll bar to find my place in a long document or >> >> newspaper article if I get interrupted. I use it with large web pages >> >> as well, as it can often be difficult to navigate through the whole >> >> page by headings. In many situations I can do a three-finger tap on >> >> the middle of the screen to hear roughly where I am, e.g. "rows 35 to >> >> 41 of 72"; next time I want to find that location, I use the scroll >> >> bar to go to 50%, and I know I won't be far out. >> >> Note that the scroll bar works in the opposite direction to the >> >> three-finger swipe: you swipe down on the scroll bar, but up when >> >> using the traditional swipe gesture, to move from the top to the >> >> bottom. >> >> I hope that made some sense - if not, let me know and I'll try to >> >> clarify. >> >> HTH, >> >> Nicky >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> >> Shirley Baker >> >> Sent: 06 June 2020 05:56 >> >> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> >> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window >> >> >> >> What long lists might you be referring to because I just don't >> >> understand how to use this. Maybe you could explain to where it would >> >> make sense please. >> >> q >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >>>> On Jun 5, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Nicola Sanders >> >>>> <<mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be>nicola.sand...@telenet.be> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>> Maybe I'm the only one, but personally I love the vertical scroll >> >>> bar! I find it really useful for navigating very long lists - much >> >>> quicker than endless three-finger swiping. >> Perhaps it should be an option in Settings. >> >>> Best, >> >>> Nicky >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> >>> Of Carolyn >> >>> Sent: 05 June 2020 20:35 >> >>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> >>> Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window Boy I would >> >>> too! >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> >>> Behalf Of Dave >> >>> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:16 PM >> >>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> >>> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window I would like >> >>> the option. To hide the vertical scrol lbar. >> >>> Dave. >> >>> From: Anne West <<mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com>mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com> >> >>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 6:30 PM >> >>> To: >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >>> Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window I agree. It >> >>> seems the world is suddenly camera happy. I would like to get rid of >> >>> that info too. It’s annoying. >> >>> From: >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> >>> Of Afik Souffir >> >>> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:40 >> >>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com >> >>> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window Hi Ann, I >> >>> dont think that its have an option for this. >> >>> Sent from my Iphone >> >>>> On 5 Jun 2020, at 16:35, Ann Byrne >> <<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>ann...@sbcglobal.net >> >>>> <mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: >> >>> On the texting screen, there is all kinds of clutter including the >> >>> names of other apps, camera, record, and so on. Is there a way to >> >>> clear the crud off the screen so a beginner (or experienceder) can >> >>> navigate directly to the text area and the keyboard without having to >> >>> negotiate fifteen other items that don't relate to texting? >> >>> I hope. >> >>> Thx, >> >>> -- >> >>> The following information is important for all members of the V >> >>> iPhone list. >> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >> >>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >> >>> contact the owners or moderators directly >> rather than posting on the list itself. >> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached >> >>> at: <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>mk...@ucla.edu >> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . 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