Yes the note in settings is quite misleading. I also went there to double
checked that mine was set to off
, but the two finger swipe down still worked. One of those unexplainable
quirks, I guess.
Marie
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 4:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speak Screen
Hi Marie,
I just shared what voice over read to me in the settings.
Haven't used the feature, so I can't comment otherwise.
HTH,
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marie" <magpie...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: Speak Screen
This actually works even with speak screen off.
Marie
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Speak Screen
Hi Ann,
When Speak Screen is turned on,
swipe down with 2 fingers from the top of the screen to hear the content of
the screen.
HTH,
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <ann...@sbcglobal.net>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The
message window
What is speak screen supposed to do? If
VoiceOver is on, the screen is spoken.
At 08:27 AM 6/7/2020, you wrote:
That's good it still works. It says in
Accessibility / Spoken content, or at least it
insinuates, that Speak Screen needs to be turned
on to work. I should have tested it before
posting. Thank you for the heads-up.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and
disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>Ryan Mann
To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE:
Removing the clutter on The message window
I have speak screen disabled. I can still swipe
down with two fingers to read the screen. This is a voice over feature.
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<<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com>
on behalf of Mike B.
<<mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>mb69ma...@fastmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 9:42:27 PM
To:
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<<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE:
Removing the clutter on The message window
Carolyn, if you disable, Speak Screen, the 2
finger swipe down gesture from the top of the
screen won't read the screen contents any
longer, that's if you ever use this feature just so you know.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
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----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>Richard Turner
To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2020 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE:
Removing the clutter on The message window
Carolyn,
Check under Settings, Accessibility, Spoken Content.
Turn off speak screen and speak selection if they are on.
Richard
Chicken: A pet that poops breakfast
> On Jun 6, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Carolyn
<<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net>4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> I get some kind of stuff about speak
screen too that is in my way, especially when
entering access code or when entering a phone
number. Whatever it is, I think I'd be as well off with tit disabled.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 7:25 PM
> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE:
Removing the clutter on The message window
>
> no.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Long
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 12:22 AM
> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE:
Removing the clutter on The message window
>
> Can the scroll bar be disabled?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
<<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Shirley Baker
> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 12:45 PM
> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE:
Removing the clutter on The message window
>
> Can you give me a little more instructions
about finding a certain email using the scroll
bar because this is what I would probably use
it for. This does make sense but I just want a
little more help in understanding about finding say a certain email.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 6, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Nicola Sanders
>> <<mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be>nicola.sand...@telenet.be>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Shirley,
>> Sure, I'll give it a try. I've edited the subject line to reflect the
>> shift in topic. I'll explain how the scroll bar works and give a
>> couple of examples of how I use it.
>> As you know, the vertical scroll bar is a very narrow strip running
>> down the right-hand edge of the screen. If you are at the top of a
>> list (or a document, a webpage or whatever), when you touch the
>> vertical scroll bar, VoiceOver will say "vertical scroll bar, 0%".
>> When you swipe down on the scroll bar with one finger, it moves you
>> down through the list in increments of 10%; so however long your list
>> or page may be, you can get from top to bottom with just ten
>> one-finger swipes. The alternative would be to swipe up using three
>> fingers, but that gesture moves you in far smaller increments, just a
>> screen at a time, and so it takes a lot
longer to move through the list and locate what you're looking for.
>> One example where I find this useful is a TV app in the UK, called
>> Sky+.
>> In the TV guide section there are hundreds of channels, numbered 1 to
>> 999, with a few gaps in the numbering. Supposing I'm I want to read
>> the channels starting from number 500 onwards: I touch the vertical
>> scroll bar and swipe down to around 50%, and I know I won't be far
>> off. I touch the middle of the screen to read one of the channel
>> numbers currently displayed, and I can then use the three-finger swipe
>> up or down to find the exact location. If I were to do a three-finger
>> swipe through the whole list, it would take me far longer, as each
>> screen only consists of around six channels. Also, I don't find it
>> that easy to use that gesture repeatedly and very fast, and I'm
>> inclined to lose focus and have to tap the middle of the screen before
>> continuing. There are no such problems with the vertical scroll bar.
>> I also find it useful when navigating through my email inbox. I have
>> far too many messages in there and am in the process of cleaning them
>> up.
>> Obviously I can search for a specific message, but I may just want to
>> look at the emails that I received around a certain time. Again, the
>> three-finger swipe would take ages.
>> I often use the scroll bar to find my place in a long document or
>> newspaper article if I get interrupted. I use it with large web pages
>> as well, as it can often be difficult to navigate through the whole
>> page by headings. In many situations I can do a three-finger tap on
>> the middle of the screen to hear roughly where I am, e.g. "rows 35 to
>> 41 of 72"; next time I want to find that location, I use the scroll
>> bar to go to 50%, and I know I won't be far out.
>> Note that the scroll bar works in the opposite direction to the
>> three-finger swipe: you swipe down on the scroll bar, but up when
>> using the traditional swipe gesture, to move from the top to the
>> bottom.
>> I hope that made some sense - if not, let me know and I'll try to
>> clarify.
>> HTH,
>> Nicky
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
<<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>> Shirley Baker
>> Sent: 06 June 2020 05:56
>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window
>>
>> What long lists might you be referring to because I just don't
>> understand how to use this. Maybe you could explain to where it would
>> make sense please.
>> q
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Jun 5, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Nicola Sanders
>>>> <<mailto:nicola.sand...@telenet.be>nicola.sand...@telenet.be>
>>>> wrote:
>>> Maybe I'm the only one, but personally I love the vertical scroll
>>> bar! I find it really useful for navigating very long lists - much
>>> quicker than endless three-finger swiping.
Perhaps it should be an option in Settings.
>>> Best,
>>> Nicky
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
<<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf
>>> Of Carolyn
>>> Sent: 05 June 2020 20:35
>>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window Boy I would
>>> too!
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Dave
>>> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:16 PM
>>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window I would like
>>> the option. To hide the vertical scrol lbar.
>>> Dave.
>>> From: Anne West <<mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com>mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 6:30 PM
>>> To:
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window I agree. It
>>> seems the world is suddenly camera happy. I would like to get rid of
>>> that info too. It’s annoying.
>>> From:
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
<<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf
>>> Of Afik Souffir
>>> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:40
>>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window Hi Ann, I
>>> dont think that its have an option for this.
>>> Sent from my Iphone
>>>> On 5 Jun 2020, at 16:35, Ann Byrne
<<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net>ann...@sbcglobal.net
>>>> <mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:
>>> On the texting screen, there is all kinds of clutter including the
>>> names of other apps, camera, record, and so on. Is there a way to
>>> clear the crud off the screen so a beginner (or experienceder) can
>>> navigate directly to the text area and the keyboard without having to
>>> negotiate fifteen other items that don't relate to texting?
>>> I hope.
>>> Thx,
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