The only reason I can think of why they may have said this, maybe what I was 
needing to be done at the time required an update but whatever the reason, it 
doesn't matter for me anymore, as I will always keep my phone updated.
End of conversation from me after this.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2020, at 1:54 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Christopher wasn't saying he didn't believe you.  He was saying he didn't 
> know why you would think Apple could not refuse to help you unless you were 
> on a more current version.  Reread his post more carefully.
> 
> Sherry Wells
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: for Joshua
> 
> I didn't think it up. This is what they told me and I can't help what your 
> opinion might be but this particular person would not help me unless I 
> updated my phone at that time. Whatever you believe is not my problem. I'm 
> just telling you what that person said so I did what they told me to do and 
> have ever since.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2020, at 10:33 AM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not sure why you think Apple can't deny you telephone support for an 
>> older unsupported version of IOS. You may be getting telephone support for 
>> now, but I doubt it'll last forever. I'm pretty sure Apple isn't releasing 
>> security updates for 12.4.1 any more either. Plus there's nothing that says 
>> app developers have to continue to support 12.4.1.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Gmail
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>>> Of Robin
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: for Joshua
>>> 
>>> Okay, Ms. Shirley
>>>  After I  received  Your MessagePosting, which  AppearsBelow this 
>>> MessagePosting of Mine,  I  decided to Call Apple's 
>>> AppleAccessibility TelephoneSupport @ 877-204-3930, To InQuire about 
>>> "what" you said, &  I was informed that I wouldn't Be Denied  
>>> TelephoneSupport from Apple's AppleAccessibility because I  refused 
>>> to update  My VZW XS  MAX  from
>>> iOS12.4.1 to  WhatEver is the Latest iOS13 iteration.
>>> 
>>> (I  Presume)
>>> it's because  I  didn't  Update Past iOS12, as  if I did  "they" 
>>> could say  that the BugFixes were Resolved in a  Future iOS update of 
>>> iOS13, but since I  refused to UpdatePast iOS12.4.1, I can't Be 
>>> Denied TelephoneSupport from AppleAccessibility on My VZW XS MAX At 06:30 
>>> PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>>>> I just hope the device you don't have it on, you won't need help 
>>>> from Apple Accessibility because they told me they require you to 
>>>> have whatever device you're requesting help with, to be updated to 
>>>> the latest version or they won't help you so every since they told 
>>>> me that, I make sure my devices are all updated.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You Ask? How will "I Know"?
>>>>>> If Ya ReadMyReplyMessagePosting to
>>>> ThisThread, I  said, that I  have Apple's iOS13 on My VZW 11PRO 
>>>> PrimarilyBecause that is the iOS version that it was LaunchedWith, 
>>>> but My VZW XS MAX wasn't, & Because of  TheBugs
>>>> AssociatedWith iOS13, I   Refuse to Update  it
>>>> to iOS13, so it Remains on  its Last Update, which  is iOS12.4.1.
>>>>> MayBe just MayBe
>>>>> You're More TechSavy than I  am. Yeah,
>>>> that's  MostLikely TheCase, as I'm not that TechSavy
>>>>> 
>>>>> MyApologies, if this MessagePosting offends, as it isn't intended ToDoSo.
>>>>> I'm just Stating-the-Facts, as  "I  See" them
>>>>> 
>>>>> Blessin's to Those on ThisThread
>>>>> At 01:56 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>>>>>> It's not that bad. How would you know how
>>>> bad it is since you haven't updated? Some people are just 
>>>> unnecessarily paranoid.It's not that bad.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, TheBigDeal is iOS13 IS  Buggy,
>>>> which is "Why" I  Refuse to Update My VZW XS MAX, as it's going to 
>>>> Stay ON iOS12.4.1, which is the iOS  version it was when I  
>>>> Purchased it, &  I  am PrivyTo TheBugs AssociatedWith
>>>> iOS13 because "They" are present on My VZW 11PRO, & that  
>>>> MobileDevice is ON AutomaticUpdates (so far). It's TheUser'sChoice 
>>>> To Update or Not
>>>>>>> At 01:13 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
>>>>>>>> You can turn automatic update off but I
>>>> don't see what the big deal is with not updating.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Joshua
>>>> Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well, the good news is, I
>>>> don't really mind the new update like I
>>>>>>>>> thought I would.  The only reason why I updated, was it seemed 
>>>>>>>>> like apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.
>>>>>>>>> I didn't have the option of saying later.  There is this weird 
>>>>>>>>> tapping thing that might happen when you update.  You
>>>> will feel it when you swipe on
>>>>>>>>> the screen.  Just call apple accessibility and they will help 
>>>>>>>>> you get rid of that.  You won't be able to check the status bar 
>>>>>>>>> to see the battery level of a bluetooth device.  You have to go 
>>>>>>>>> to battery on page one of your phone to see that.
>>>>>>>>> Although, usually I can just ask Siri current battery level and 
>>>>>>>>> she will tell me the battery level of my iPhone and a bluetooth
>>> device.  If you have to update, good luck.
>>>>>>>>> It really isn't that bad.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor <judypry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night
>>>> when Apple seemed to be forcing me to
>>>>>>>>>> update .  I am still on 12.4.1.  It
>>>> was only when I disagreed with the terms
>>>>>>>>>> did it go away. Today they are trying
>>>> again.  What I wanted to know is how
>>>>>>>>>> are you getting along with the latest
>>>> update.  I am using the old SE.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Judy
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua
>>>> Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Alan is correct.  I also have the exchange this title option 
>>>>>>>>>>> if I enter on the menu of an audible
>>>> book.  However, I always have to call
>>>>>>>>>>> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't 
>>>>>>>>>>> return a book not even from the audible website.  It has 
>>>>>>>>>>> never worked for me except to phone.  The option to phone
>>>> audible is even in the app when
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm told I can't return a book.  But
>>>> the initial exchange this title
>>>>>>>>>>> is deffinately in my audible app.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/28/20, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Michael, I am in the states,
>>>> and I don̢ۉ„„¢t have that option. I have e
>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the other options, including send
>>>> this book and add to favorites, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange is definitely not there.
>>>> Multiple books on more than one phone
>>>>>>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>>>>>> zip. Maybe it’s because I get
>>>> all ml my creditsits at once? Seems very odd.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM,
>>>> Michael Feir <michael.f...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think a couple of those options,
>>>> "sendd this book" and "exchange this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> title" are only available in the US
>>>> currently. I'm Canadian and need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> either call Audible or go to the
>>>> full desktop version of the Auydible
>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and into "purchase history" in
>>>> order to return titles. A dialogue opens
>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over the page once you double tap
>>>> on "return" and then you need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> navigate that dialogue. Not too
>>>> hard at all. I like the thought of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to return books from right in
>>>> the app so I hope they extend that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> option to Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked, and if you flick
>>>> right once from the title of the book
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Details,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rate and Review,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark as Finished,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exchange this title,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Send This Boo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Add to favorites,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cancel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "He that cannot forgive others
>>>> breaks the bridge over which he must
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pass
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself,† and we forget that
>>>> only grace ccan break  the cycle of ancient
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is
>>>> notable that while I have regretted not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> granting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grace to others, I’ve never
>>>> once ce regrettedted extending it.)" - Edward
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Herbert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Alan
>>>> Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mary,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I'm in my Library tab on the
>>>> iOS Audible app and double tap the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menu button to the right of one
>>>> of my listed books, I get a list of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vertically stacked options one of which is Exchange this title.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan Lemly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 2:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: VIPhone via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Returning or exchanging
>>>> audible books using the iOS audible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone in a WhatsApp group I am
>>>> part of says that he is able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange audible books from
>>>> within the iOS audible app. If you go to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your library, get the list of
>>>> books that you have downloaded, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> double
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tap on the menu next to one of those books,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you get a bunch of choices, one
>>>> of which is supposed to be return or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange this book. I have tried this, not because I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to exchange something, but just because I
>>>> wanted to see if I have a choice. And I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don�t. The books I tried it on or a couple of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently purchased books. So they
>>>> definitely met the criteria for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible exchange. But
>>>> I�m not seeing this choice. Is anyone else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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