Thanks Sherry. Yes, I was agreeing with Shirley
and disagreeing with Robin. In fact, I assumed
Shirley's response was directed at Robin's
message, the same message I was responding to.
--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf
> Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 1:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: for Joshua
>
> Christopher wasn't saying he didn't believe
you. He was saying he didn't know
> why you would think Apple could not refuse to help you unless you were on a
> more current version. Reread his post more carefully.
>
> Sherry Wells
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf
> Of Shirley Baker
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: for Joshua
>
> I didn't think it up. This is what they told
me and I can't help what your opinion
> might be but this particular person would not
help me unless I updated my phone
> at that time. Whatever you believe is not my
problem. I'm just telling you what
> that person said so I did what they told me to do and have ever since.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 30, 2020, at 10:33 AM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure why you think Apple can't
deny you telephone support for an older
> unsupported version of IOS. You may be
getting telephone support for now, but
> I doubt it'll last forever. I'm pretty sure
Apple isn't releasing security updates for
> 12.4.1 any more either. Plus there's nothing
that says app developers have to
> continue to support 12.4.1.
> >
> > --
> > Christopher (AKA CJ)
> > Chaltain at Gmail
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On
> Behalf
> >> Of Robin
> >> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 8:59 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: for Joshua
> >>
> >> Okay, Ms. Shirley
> >> After I received Your MessagePosting, which AppearsBelow this
> >> MessagePosting of Mine, I decided to Call Apple's
> >> AppleAccessibility TelephoneSupport @ 877-204-3930, To InQuire about
> >> "what" you said, & I was informed that I wouldn't Be Denied
> >> TelephoneSupport from Apple's AppleAccessibility because I refused
> >> to update My VZW XS MAX from
> >> iOS12.4.1 to WhatEver is the Latest iOS13 iteration.
> >>
> >> (I Presume)
> >> it's because I didn't Update Past iOS12, as if I did "they"
> >> could say that the BugFixes were Resolved in a Future iOS update of
> >> iOS13, but since I refused to UpdatePast iOS12.4.1, I can't Be
> >> Denied TelephoneSupport from AppleAccessibility on My VZW XS MAX At
> 06:30 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
> >>> I just hope the device you don't have it on, you won't need help
> >>> from Apple Accessibility because they told me they require you to
> >>> have whatever device you're requesting help with, to be updated to
> >>> the latest version or they won't help you so every since they told
> >>> me that, I make sure my devices are all updated.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You Ask? How will "I Know"?
> >>>>> If Ya ReadMyReplyMessagePosting to
> >>> ThisThread, I said, that I have Apple's iOS13 on My VZW 11PRO
> >>> PrimarilyBecause that is the iOS version that it was LaunchedWith,
> >>> but My VZW XS MAX wasn't, & Because of TheBugs
> >>> AssociatedWith iOS13, I Refuse to Update it
> >>> to iOS13, so it Remains on its Last Update, which is iOS12.4.1.
> >>>> MayBe just MayBe
> >>>> You're More TechSavy than I am. Yeah,
> >>> that's MostLikely TheCase, as I'm not that TechSavy
> >>>>
> >>>> MyApologies, if this MessagePosting
offends, as it isn't intended ToDoSo.
> >>>> I'm just Stating-the-Facts, as "I See" them
> >>>>
> >>>> Blessin's to Those on ThisThread
> >>>> At 01:56 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
> >>>>> It's not that bad. How would you know how
> >>> bad it is since you haven't updated? Some people are just
> >>> unnecessarily paranoid.It's not that bad.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 3:31 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, TheBigDeal is iOS13 IS Buggy,
> >>> which is "Why" I Refuse to Update My VZW XS MAX, as it's going to
> >>> Stay ON iOS12.4.1, which is the iOS version it was when I Purchased
> >>> it, & I am PrivyTo TheBugs AssociatedWith
> >>> iOS13 because "They" are present on My VZW 11PRO, & that
> >>> MobileDevice is ON AutomaticUpdates (so far). It's TheUser'sChoice
> >>> To Update or Not
> >>>>>> At 01:13 PM 8/29/2020, you wrote:
> >>>>>>> You can turn automatic update off but I
> >>> don't see what the big deal is with not updating.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Joshua
> >>> Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ï»Ã šÃ‚¿Well, the good news is, I
> >>> don't really mind the new update like I
> >>>>>>>> thought I would. The only reason why I updated, was it seemed
> >>>>>>>> like apple did the update, and I had to enter in my touch ID.
> >>>>>>>> I didn't have the option of saying later. There is this weird
> >>>>>>>> tapping thing that might happen when you update. You
> >>> will feel it when you swipe on
> >>>>>>>> the screen. Just call apple accessibility and they will help
> >>>>>>>> you get rid of that. You won't be able to check the status bar
> >>>>>>>> to see the battery level of a bluetooth device. You have to go
> >>>>>>>> to battery on page one of your phone to see that.
> >>>>>>>> Although, usually I can just ask Siri current battery level and
> >>>>>>>> she will tell me the battery level of my iPhone and a bluetooth
> >> device. If you have to update, good luck.
> >>>>>>>> It really isn't that bad.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 8/29/20, Judy Pryor <judypry...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Joshua, i thought of you last night
> >>> when Apple seemed to be forcing me to
> >>>>>>>>> update . I am still on 12.4.1. It
> >>> was only when I disagreed with the terms
> >>>>>>>>> did it go away. Today they are trying
> >>> again. What I wanted to know is how
> >>>>>>>>> are you getting along with the latest
> >>> update. I am using the old SE.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Many thanks
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Judy
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 28 Aug 2020, at 23:16, Joshua
> >>> Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Alan is correct. I also have the exchange this title option
> >>>>>>>>>> if I enter on the menu of an audible
> >>> book. However, I always have to call
> >>>>>>>>>> anyway if I want to exchange a title because I just can't
> >>>>>>>>>> return a book not even from the audible website. It has
> >>>>>>>>>> never worked for me except to phone. The option to phone
> >>> audible is even in the app when
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm told I can't return a book. But
> >>> the initial exchange this title
> >>>>>>>>>> is deffinately in my audible app.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/28/20, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, Michael, I am in the states,
> >>> and I donâ€â℄¢t have that option. I have e
> >>>>>>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>>>>> of the other options, including send
> >>> this book and add to favorites, but
> >>>>>>>>>>> exchange is definitely not there.
> >>> Multiple books on more than one phone
> >>>>>>>>>>> show
> >>>>>>>>>>> zip. Maybe it’s becaecause I get
> >>> all ml my creditsits at once? Seems very odd.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:55 PM,
> >>> Michael Feir <michael.f...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ï»Ãâ‚¿
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think a couple of those options,
> >>> "sendd this book" and "exchange this
> >>>>>>>>>>>> title" are only available in the US
> >>> currently. I'm Canadian and need to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> either call Audible or go to the
> >>> full desktop version of the Auydible
> >>>>>>>>>>>> site
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and into "purchase history" in
> >>> order to return titles. A dialogue opens
> >>>>>>>>>>>> up
> >>>>>>>>>>>> over the page once you double tap
> >>> on "return" and then you need to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> navigate that dialogue. Not too
> >>> hard at all. I like the thought of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>>>>> able to return books from right in
> >>> the app so I hope they extend that
> >>>>>>>>>>>> option to Canada.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Richard Turner
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked, and if you flick
> >>> right once from the title of the book
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and double tap on the button labeled Menu, The buttons are:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Details,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rate and Review,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark as Finished,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Exchange this title,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Send This Boo,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Add to favorites,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cancel.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "He that cannot forgive others
> >>> breaks the bridge over which he must
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> pass
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> himself,†and we forget thhat
> >>> only grace ccan break the cycle of ancient
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is
> >>> notable that while I have regretted not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> granting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> grace to others, Iâ€â„„¢ve never
> >>> once ce regrettedted extending it.)" - Edward
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Herbert
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Alan
> >>> Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ï»Ã‚¿Mary,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I'm in my Library tab on the
> >>> iOS Audible app and double tap the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Menu button to the right of one
> >>> of my listed books, I get a list of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> vertically stacked options one
of which is Exchange this title.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan Lemly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 2:21 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: VIPhone via
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Returning or exchanging
> >>> audible books using the iOS audible
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> app
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone in a WhatsApp group I am
> >>> part of says that he is able to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange audible books from
> >>> within the iOS audible app. If you go to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your library, get the list of
> >>> books that you have downloaded, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> double
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tap on the menu next to one of those books,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you get a bunch of choices, one
> >>> of which is supposed to be return or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange this book. I have tried this, not because I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to exchange something, but just because I
> >>> wanted to see if I have a choice. And I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> donï¿Ã½t.
The books I tried it on or a couple of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently purchased books. So they
> >>> definitely met the criteria for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible exchange. But
> >>> Iï¿Â‚½m not seeing this choice. Is anyone else
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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