I'll AgreeWithYa there, as Both Sides  "Do have Valid Reasons"

At 01:37 PM 9/5/2020, you wrote:
No one is trying to deny you the right to say what you believe.
We are just stating different opinions.
At this point, I can't say which view is likely to be correct as both sides have very valid reasons.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,†and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 1:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Apple's Siri & YouTube MobileApp & iOS13

Guess We'll  "Agree TO DisAgree" Here.
It's good to PointThis Out to Both the
AppDevelopers of Google's YouTube MobileApp as Well as the SoftwareDevelopers of Apple's iOS to Resolve this issue.

Apple's iOS13 updates have been Breakin'Things & Fixin'Them & either Breakin'ThemAgain or Breakin'SomethingElse

I'm a User of Their (current) Software, iOS13, so that Gives me TheRight to Say "what"
I  Believe, Who's Responsibility it is

At 01:18 PM 9/5/2020, you wrote:
>I think we should leave it to Apple and Google to assign responsibility.
>I know it worked early in iOS 13 so I personally cannot say its Apple's
>fault since Google updates Youtube as often as some people bathe.
>
>
>
>Richard
>"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge
>over which he must pass himself,† and we
>forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable
>that while I have regretted not granting grace
>to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)t.)" - Edward Herbert
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robin
>Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 1:09 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: Apple's Siri & YouTube MobileApp & iOS13
>
>It's "Clear" to me, that  The Responsibility
>lies with Apple, as  Apple's Siri  does Open
>Google's YouTube MobileApp on iOS12, but Doesn't
>on iOS13, & I  "know" this For a  Fact, as  I  have
>2  iOSDevices: an XS MAX & an 11PRO. The XS MAX
>is  on iOS12 & the 11PRO  is on iOS13.
>&
>it's Not  Apple's iOS13.7, as My 11PRO is  on
>iOS13.6.1, &  Apple's Siri doesn't
>Open  Google's YouTube MobileApp, but Apple's
>Siri does Open Google's YouTube MobileApp on My XS  MAX
>
>At 11:06 AM 9/5/2020, you wrote:
> >It's not clear to me if this is an issue with the Youtube app or IOS
> >13.7. The fact that it stopped working when upgrading to IOS 13.7 is a
> >good clue, but that doesn't mean that this upgrade didn't just expose
> >something Google was doing wrong in the Youtube app. I'd start by
> >reporting this to Google, which I just did, but I'd encourage others to
> >do it as well.
> >
> >Note that this doesn't seem to be just because this is a Google app or
> >that there's some feud going on between Apple and Google, since the
> >youtube Music app works just fine with Siri.
> >
> >--
> >Christopher (AKA CJ)
> >Chaltain at Gmail
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf
> > > Of Priscilla Garces (prisci)
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 10:42 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: Apple's Siri & YouTube MobileApp & iOS13
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > When I try to open the YouTube app, I also receive the message “

>
> > > YouTube hasn’t added support for that wi with Siri.ri. “

>
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Sep 5, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Joshua
> Hendrickson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If Siri could close apps as well as open them, then I'd be more
> > > > willing to use it to open apps.
> > > >
> > > >> On 9/5/20, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> On my part, sometimes it’s just becaucause
>e
> > I’m lazy, and know that I can
n
>n
> > > >> open apps that way if I choose. It’s ¢s a luxuryury of choice.
> > > >>
> > > >> Peggy Sent from my i phoneâ˜Ã‚ºÃ¯Â¸
> > > >>
> > > >>>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 8:55 AM, Joshua Hendrickson
> > > >>>> <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> What is the point of using Siri to open apps. I never ever
> > > >>> use this feature of Siri.  For some reason ever since my iPhone
> > > >>> turned Traitor and updated on me, Siri hasn't worked all that
> > > >>> well.  I hope things settle down when IOS 14 comes out.  Also, I
> > > >>> suppose, I should really delete some books off my iPhone, as
> > > >>> there isn't much left of my 256 gigs, since so much of it is
> > > >>> taken up with audio books from both bard, and now audible.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On 9/5/20, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>> Please do all report to Apple. AND DO report IT NOW don't sit
> > > >>>> back and relax like 90% of us DO!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > >>>> Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> Namens
> > > >>>> Robin
> > > >>>> Verzonden: vrijdag 4 september 2020 23:30
> > > >>>> Aan: [email protected]
> > > >>>> Onderwerp: RE: Apple's Siri & YouTube MobileApp & iOS13
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Since  it  still Works on  Apple's iOS12, (I  Think) the
> > > >>>> Problem/Issue lies with  Apple's
> > > >>>> iOS: More Specifically; Apple's iOS13.
> > > >>>> &
> > > >>>> MyReasoning for this is: Recently, Google  PushedOut an Update
> > > >>>> to its YouTube MobileApp, which GreatlyReduced the
> > > >>>> Volume/Sound when  OpeningUp  the YouTube MobileApp, & this
> > > >>>> Issue/Problem  was  Experienced on Both  iOS12 as well as
> > > >>>> iOS13, & this is "why"  (I  Believe) this Time,  the Fault lies
> > > >>>> with Apple & its iOS updates
> > > >>>> (iOS13)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> At 12:54 PM 9/4/2020, you wrote:
> > > >>>>> Well, it worked fine until the last updates.
> > > >>>>> Maybe Google and Apple are having a spat again.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Richard
> > > >>>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he
> > > >>>>> must pass himself,† and we forrget that only  grace caan
> > > >>>>> break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is
> > > >>>>> notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to
> > > >>>>> others, Iâ€ÃƒÂ¢ÃƒÂ¢„¢ve neverver once
> regretted extending it.)"Â -
> > > >>>>> Edward Herbert
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
> > > >>>>> Behalf Of [email protected]
> > > >>>>> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 12:50 PM
> > > >>>>> To: [email protected]
> > > >>>>> Subject: Re: Apple's Siri & YouTube MobileApp & iOS13
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi,
> > > >>>>> I was told, that the reason this app is not supported by Siri,
> > > >>>>> is because it is a Google app. Not sure if that information is
> > > >>>>> correct but that’s thethe information In I receiveived.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Peggy Sent from my i phoneâ˜Ãƒ‚ºÃ¯Ã‚¸
¸
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Richard Turner
> > > >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> ï»Ãâ‚¿Yes, I just tried it and Siri said
> > > >>>>> "YouTube hasn't added support for that with Siri."
> > > >>>>>> Must have been a change in either
> 13.7 or the latest YouTube update.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Richard
> > > >>>>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the
> > > >>>>> bridge over which he must pass himself,† andd we forgget
> > > >>>>> that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among
> > > >>>>> peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> > > >>>>> granting grace to others, Iâ€ââ„¢ve neverver once regretted
> > > >>>>> extending it.)" -  - Edward Herbert
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>>> From: [email protected]
> > > >>>>> <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robin
> > > >>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 12:39 PM
> > > >>>>>> To: [email protected]
> > > >>>>>> Subject: Apple's Siri & YouTube MobileApp & iOS13
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Is  AnyOne else Experiencing Difficulty using
> > > >>>>> Apple's Siri to Open the YouTube MobileApp  on Apple's iOS13,
> > > >>>>> as I recently Noticed that it's Impossible  for  Apple's Siri
> > > >>>>> to Open the YouTube MobileApp?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> But on  My XS MAX using Apple's iOS12, there
> > > >>>>> isn't a  Problem or Issue with Apple's Siri Opening the
> > > >>>>> YouTube MobileApp.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> ThankYou to ALL, who take TheTime to
> > > >>>>> Read&Respond to MyMessagePosting, as it's VeryMuch & Greatly
> > > >>>>> appreciated!
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