Thanks Malcolm for this information and my apologies for assuming that because theft and loss are not covered here that this is so everywhere. It goes to show that discussing such options really require posters to specify which country they are in because here in Canada the AppleCare+ with Theft and Loss is not offered and in fact Apple clearly states that whatever coverage they provide may be subject to the laws of the jurisdiction where you live. The same applies to many services or products such as the Apple Credit Card, Apple Pay, Apple TV etc.
On the US Apple website it does say: Every iPhone comes with one year of hardware repair coverage through its limited warranty and up to 90 days of complimentary support. Both AppleCare+ options extend your coverage and provide up to two incidents of accidental damage protection every 12 months. AppleCare+ with Theft and Loss adds up to two incidents of theft or loss coverage every 12 months. And then there are the many countries around the world where Apple has no presence in terms of Apple Stores and Apple products are distributed and sold exclusively by third party companies, South Africa is one such example. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 9:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Battery Issue in latest update According to Apple when I phoned them in May, AppleCare+ does cover loss and theft in the US and Japan but not here in the UK so not worth buying for me.Malcolm Parfitt > On 1 Aug 2021, at 17:06, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Apple Care + is good for 2 years, maybe you have something extra offered by > Best Buy, but you only get a battery replaced at no charge if its capacity > drops below 80% prior to or by the time your AppleCare+ warranty expires. > I used to get AppleCare+ as well when I had my first 3 or 4 iPhones, but I > think the last time I bought it was with my 6S. Now it's so expensive that I > don't bother any more, I pay something like $40 a year to have a separate > rider added to my home insurance which covers my iPhone and this includes > loss or theft as well not just damage and AppleCare+ does not cover that. > When I lost my iPhone 6S back in 2016 or whenever it was I claimed it through > my insurance and with very little fuss I received a cheque for the full > amount of what a new iPhone 6S cost at the time + taxes and this way I was > actually not even stuck with getting the exact same replacement and I ended > up paying the extra to buy a 6S Plus at the time. > Here is a bunch of information about AppleCare+ directly from the Apple > website: > > Coverage begins on your AppleCare+ purchase date. > Service coverage is available only for iPhone and its original included > accessories or for batteries that retain less than 80% of their original > capacity. > The replacement equipment that Apple provides as part of the repair or > replacement service may be new or equivalent to new in both performance and > reliability. See AppleCare+ Terms and Conditions for full details. > AppleCare+ for iPhone provides coverage for up to two incidents of accidental > damage from handling every 12 months. Each incident is subject to a service > fee of $39 for a screen replacement, or $129 for any other damage, plus > applicable tax. Any unused incidents will expire after 12 months of coverage > and you will get two more incidents to use within the next 12 months of > continued coverage. > Local telephone fees may apply. Telephone numbers and hours of operation may > vary and are subject to change. > Express Replacement Service is not available under the screen replacement > service fee. Same-day service availability and options may vary by region and > iPhone model. > For international service, Apple may repair or replace your iPhone and iPhone > parts with a comparable iPhone model or parts that comply with local > standards. > Service coverage is subject to AppleCare+ Terms and Conditions. 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Or call > 1-800-MY-APPLE. > Canada (English) Français > Copyright © 2021 Apple Inc. All rights reserved.Privacy Policy Use of > Cookies Terms of Use Sales and Refunds Legal Site Map > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Joshua Hendrickson > Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 5:47 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Battery Issue in latest update > > I've got apple care+ with theft and loss that I now pay $10 per month for. > So when I need to get a new battery, it shouldn't cost me anything. I have > to go to best buy for any apple work on my iPhone. > I don't really like best buy, but I have no choice. > >> On 8/1/21, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: >> When the battery health drops below 80%, Apple recommends getting the >> battery replaced. >> As the battery health declines your battery will hold its charge for >> less time. >> If you got 5 hours at 100% then at 80% you'll get 4 roughly 4 hours. >> I do not know what other problems the degrading battery may cause, >> but jenwally it isn't that expensive to get it replaced. >> There are lots of places that will do that if Apple gives you a >> stupidly high price. >> >> >> >> Richard >> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds >> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt >> >> www.turner42.com >> >> >> On Aug 1, 2021, at 4:25 AM, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I updated my iPhone 8 to 14.71 yesterday and when I checked my >> battery health, it still said I was at 82% and at peak performance. >> I have been at this level of power, 82% and at peak performance for >> some time now. I'll keep an eye out and see if anything changes in the >> future. >> >> On 7/31/21, danamariel...@gmail.com <danamariel...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I have noticed on our I Phone 8’s that if you check the battery >> health status, since the last update that it tells me and my husband >> and others who are friends of ours that they need to get their IPhone >> 8 batteries replaced. >> >> Dana >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of Kimberly >> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 9:17 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Battery Issue in latest update >> >> >> >> My husband and I have both noticed this behavior. 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