hi Richard, and everyone, I also have a landline, and won't give it up. I like the idea of having a land line, because something could also happen to a smart phone as well. That did happen to me a couple of years ago. recently, I could not send the email, and had to contact my email provider. It was fixed in a jiffy. I was certainly grateful for that. Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > On Sep 1, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > > Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are > cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and > their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I > retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and > find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. > > > > Richard > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > – Jane Wagner > > My Web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact > > It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, > Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc. > Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't > think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody > that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if > you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. > I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much > attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone > app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that > you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also > by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a > particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that > person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all > and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can > either delete individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls > list, it makes no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then > select to clear them, it still clears the entire call list. > I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently > I am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be > very difficult for Apple to implemenbt this. > > As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is > the following scenario: > > 1. Assume you have a contact called John Smith and you have a work phone, > home phone, a fax number and a mobile number for that person > 2. I now say to SIRI "Message John Smith" and I am not specifying "mobile" > 3. SIRI will ask "Which of these should I use for John Smith, work phone, > home phone, fax number or mobile" > > It is of course completely ridiculous why SIRI should ask this because you > typically can't send a text message to a landline, e.g. work or home phone > and you definitely can't send a text message to a fax number. > And if you also have an email address added to the contact, e.g. > johnsm...@gmail.com, SIRI often also includes this in the list. Of course I > can still understand it since if somebody has iMessage enabled you can send > an iMessage to their email address, then at best it should ask if you want to > use "Mobile or email". It's just another way where SIRI falls short of what > it should be after 11 years of being around. > At least it seems Apple has finally made SIRI smart enough where you can add > a Contact with just a company name in the Company name field, e.g. Apple > Accessibility, and then say "Call Apple Accessibility". Until maybe last year > you always had to also add the company name either in the first name or last > name field if you wanted to ask SIRI to call it or else it would not find it. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: September 1, 2021 7:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact > > The Contact labels are a joke, and have been a joke for as long as I have had > an iPhone. > when was the last time you knew someone with a Radio phone, or a car phone, > or a pager? And, the iPhone label is there sometimes and not others. There > is a Custom label button to create your own some of the time and not others. > Apple truly has not paid attention to the labels forever. > Half the time, when I use their standard labels of home or work, and share a > contact with my wife, the label is changed to Work, if it was home or to home > if it was work. > The same thing with Email labels in contacts. Pick one you can live with > and, as they say, don't sweat the small stuff. Grin. > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- Jane Wagner > > > > > > website: www.turner42.com > > > > On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > It does not matter, I have never used the iPhone label because in many cases > you don't even know if the person has an iPhone or not and then there are > those situations where somebody may have an iPhone and then they decide to > get an Android phone when they next upgrade. I still have that label and I > even see an "Apple Watch" label, not sure why I now have this, but I find it > nonsense, whether iPhone or Android phone, they are all mobile phones and I > have never experienced a situation that if the recipient of a message had > iMessage enabled and was in range of a WiFi or cellular data network that the > message was not sent as an iMessage. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tom > Cramer > Sent: September 1, 2021 2:43 AM > To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Identifying labels when making a contact > > Hello, > When I first used an iPhone and learned to enter contacts, I remember that > there was a section where you could identify someone's phone number as being > a home phone, work phone, or miblie phone, and a bunch of other options. I > also remember that there was a specific choice for an iPhone, not just a > mobile phone. > Now, all I see is a mobile phone option but not an iPhone option. I was just > wondering if that option still existed and how I can get there. > Also, would any of that matter when it comes to sending iMessages to someone > with an iDevice? > Tom > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. 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