Hey Esther, You guys in the USA get some rough stuff,
The big easy just got hit And now cannetakit Keep your heads down and stay safe. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 9:40 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact we are expecting a severe storm here in Connecticut later this evening. I have my phone charging and I also have a power bank charging. I know my landline will go out if we lose electricity. Anyway, I am crossing my fingers on both hands! Ha ha! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their home or work phone. I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc. Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can either delete individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls list, it makes no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then select to clear them, it still clears the entire call list. I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently I am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be very difficult for Apple to implemenbt this. As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is the following scenario: 1. Assume you have a contact called John Smith and you have a work phone, home phone, a fax number and a mobile number for that person 2. I now say to SIRI "Message John Smith" and I am not specifying "mobile" 3. SIRI will ask "Which of these should I use for John Smith, work phone, home phone, fax number or mobile" It is of course completely ridiculous why SIRI should ask this because you typically can't send a text message to a landline, e.g. work or home phone and you definitely can't send a text message to a fax number. And if you also have an email address added to the contact, e.g. johnsm...@gmail.com<mailto:johnsm...@gmail.com>, SIRI often also includes this in the list. Of course I can still understand it since if somebody has iMessage enabled you can send an iMessage to their email address, then at best it should ask if you want to use "Mobile or email". It's just another way where SIRI falls short of what it should be after 11 years of being around. At least it seems Apple has finally made SIRI smart enough where you can add a Contact with just a company name in the Company name field, e.g. Apple Accessibility, and then say "Call Apple Accessibility". Until maybe last year you always had to also add the company name either in the first name or last name field if you wanted to ask SIRI to call it or else it would not find it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 1, 2021 7:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact The Contact labels are a joke, and have been a joke for as long as I have had an iPhone. when was the last time you knew someone with a Radio phone, or a car phone, or a pager? And, the iPhone label is there sometimes and not others. There is a Custom label button to create your own some of the time and not others. Apple truly has not paid attention to the labels forever. Half the time, when I use their standard labels of home or work, and share a contact with my wife, the label is changed to Work, if it was home or to home if it was work. The same thing with Email labels in contacts. Pick one you can live with and, as they say, don't sweat the small stuff. Grin. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner website: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: It does not matter, I have never used the iPhone label because in many cases you don't even know if the person has an iPhone or not and then there are those situations where somebody may have an iPhone and then they decide to get an Android phone when they next upgrade. I still have that label and I even see an "Apple Watch" label, not sure why I now have this, but I find it nonsense, whether iPhone or Android phone, they are all mobile phones and I have never experienced a situation that if the recipient of a message had iMessage enabled and was in range of a WiFi or cellular data network that the message was not sent as an iMessage. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom Cramer Sent: September 1, 2021 2:43 AM To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Identifying labels when making a contact Hello, When I first used an iPhone and learned to enter contacts, I remember that there was a section where you could identify someone's phone number as being a home phone, work phone, or miblie phone, and a bunch of other options. I also remember that there was a specific choice for an iPhone, not just a mobile phone. Now, all I see is a mobile phone option but not an iPhone option. I was just wondering if that option still existed and how I can get there. Also, would any of that matter when it comes to sending iMessages to someone with an iDevice? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. 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