hey, everyone, my city, Waterbury, in Connecticut, did not get too much damage. 
I'm glad I didn't have to evacuate.  I guess they're still our flood warnings 
to watch out for. Take care, everyone, and I will keep you updated. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Esther,
>  
> You guys in the USA get some rough stuff,
>  
> The big easy just got hit
> And now cannetakit
>  
> Keep your heads down and stay safe.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Esther 
> Levegnale
> Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 9:40 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> we are expecting a severe storm here in Connecticut later this evening. I 
> have my phone charging and I also have a power bank charging. I know my 
> landline will go out if we lose electricity. Anyway, I am crossing my fingers 
> on both hands! Ha ha! Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> 
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
> main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.
> I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
> (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
> also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" 
> and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in 
> giving people the option to use their home or work phone.
> I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
> having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.           For me 
> even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also 
> have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even 
> during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because 
> all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my 
> family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power 
> line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire 
> time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared 
> chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but 
> that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up 
> and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe 
> weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so 
> there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are 
> cell phones.  Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and 
> their work phone is often a cell phone also.  That was true for me before I 
> retired.  We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and 
> find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, 
> Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc.
> Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't 
> think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody 
> that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if 
> you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc.
> I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much 
> attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone 
> app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that 
> you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also 
> by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a 
> particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that 
> person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all 
> and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can 
> either delete individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls 
> list, it makes no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then 
> select to clear them, it still clears the entire call list.
> I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently 
> I am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be 
> very difficult for Apple to implemenbt this.
>  
> As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is 
> the following scenario:
>  
> 1. Assume you have a contact called John Smith and you have a work phone, 
> home phone, a fax number and a mobile number for that person
> 2. I now say to SIRI "Message John Smith" and I am not specifying "mobile"
> 3. SIRI will ask "Which of these should I use for John Smith, work phone, 
> home phone, fax number or mobile"
>  
> It is of course completely ridiculous why SIRI should ask this because you 
> typically can't send a text message to a landline, e.g. work or home phone 
> and you definitely can't send a text message to a fax number.
> And if you also have an email address added to the contact, e.g. 
> johnsm...@gmail.com, SIRI often also includes this in the list. Of course I 
> can still understand it since if somebody has iMessage enabled you can send 
> an iMessage to their email address, then at best it should ask if you want to 
> use "Mobile or email". It's just another way where SIRI falls short of what 
> it should be after 11 years of being around.
> At least it seems Apple has finally made SIRI smart enough where you can add 
> a Contact with just a company name in the Company name field, e.g. Apple 
> Accessibility, and then say "Call Apple Accessibility". Until maybe last year 
> you always had to also add the company name either in the first name or last 
> name field if you wanted to ask SIRI to call it or else it would not find it.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: September 1, 2021 7:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> The Contact labels are a joke, and have been a joke for as long as I have had 
> an iPhone.
> when was the last time you knew someone with a Radio phone, or a car phone, 
> or a pager?  And, the iPhone label is there sometimes and not others.  There 
> is a Custom label button to create your own some of the time and not others.
> Apple truly has not paid attention to the labels forever.
> Half the time, when I use their standard labels of home or work, and share a 
> contact with my wife, the label is changed to Work, if it was home or to home 
> if it was work.  
> The same thing with Email labels in contacts.  Pick one you can live with 
> and, as they say, don't sweat the small stuff.  Grin.
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> 
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> It does not matter, I have never used the iPhone label because in many cases 
> you don't even know if the person has an iPhone or not and then there are 
> those situations where somebody may have an iPhone and then they decide to 
> get an Android phone when they next upgrade. I still have that label and I 
> even see an "Apple Watch" label, not sure why I now have this, but I find it 
> nonsense, whether iPhone or Android phone, they are all mobile phones and I 
> have never experienced a situation that if the recipient of a message had 
> iMessage enabled and was in range of a WiFi or cellular data network that the 
> message was not sent as an iMessage.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tom 
> Cramer
> Sent: September 1, 2021 2:43 AM
> To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Identifying labels when making a contact
> 
> Hello,
> When I first used an iPhone and learned to enter contacts, I remember that 
> there was a section where you could identify someone's phone number as being 
> a home phone, work phone, or miblie phone, and a bunch of other options. I 
> also remember that there was a specific choice for an iPhone, not just a 
> mobile phone.
> Now, all I see is a mobile phone option but not an iPhone option. I was just 
> wondering if that option still existed and how I can get there.
> Also, would any of that matter when it comes to sending iMessages to someone 
> with an iDevice?
> Tom
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